- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
An Excerpt Applicable to the Last Couple Days
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:51 am
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:51 am
From "Bringing the Heat" by Buzz Bissinger, p. 96.
Substitute "Saturdays" for "Sundays."
Sustitute "Purple and Gold" for "Green and Silver."
Substitute "Joe Alleva" for "Norman Braman."
Substitute "Tigers" for "Eagles."
Substitute "Baton Rouge" for "Philadelphia."
... and Bissinger paints a perfect picture of many whom the Les Miles debacle has posting all over this board the last three days.
Richie and Norman and the players preferred fans who rooted rationally, who showed up Sundays decked in green and silver and cheered their heads off and then--buoyed by victory or disappointed by defeat--returned to their lives refreshed, pleased with the memory of an exciting afternoon. Norman was convinced that most fans were like this.
But the most visible and vocal fans were those whose self-worth seemed to hang on the Ealges' fortunes, fans for whom winning was not just a preferred outcome on a fall afternoon, but something owed, by the players, the coaches and ultimately by Norman Braman himself, presumably in return for the cost of their tickets or, for the hardcases, as a Philadelphia birthright.
The Id-people came out on game day, thousands of them, for some primitive venting ritual. They howled abuse and hatred at the enemy--anyone they perceived as an obstacle to victory.
They reveled in the violence of football, would cheer when hated opponents (or sometimes hated members of the home team) were carried bleeding, mangled or unconscious from the field. They were like the throngs who cheered the dismemberment of Christians in Roman coliseums or who turned public hangings into social events. The sheer unthinking brutality of these fans connected vaguely with Norman's Jewishness, summoning disturbing ancestral echoes of murderous mobs, or porgroms and Kristallnacht.
The Les Miles debacle has definitely brought the "id fans" out of the woodwork.
Substitute "Saturdays" for "Sundays."
Sustitute "Purple and Gold" for "Green and Silver."
Substitute "Joe Alleva" for "Norman Braman."
Substitute "Tigers" for "Eagles."
Substitute "Baton Rouge" for "Philadelphia."
... and Bissinger paints a perfect picture of many whom the Les Miles debacle has posting all over this board the last three days.
Richie and Norman and the players preferred fans who rooted rationally, who showed up Sundays decked in green and silver and cheered their heads off and then--buoyed by victory or disappointed by defeat--returned to their lives refreshed, pleased with the memory of an exciting afternoon. Norman was convinced that most fans were like this.
But the most visible and vocal fans were those whose self-worth seemed to hang on the Ealges' fortunes, fans for whom winning was not just a preferred outcome on a fall afternoon, but something owed, by the players, the coaches and ultimately by Norman Braman himself, presumably in return for the cost of their tickets or, for the hardcases, as a Philadelphia birthright.
The Id-people came out on game day, thousands of them, for some primitive venting ritual. They howled abuse and hatred at the enemy--anyone they perceived as an obstacle to victory.
They reveled in the violence of football, would cheer when hated opponents (or sometimes hated members of the home team) were carried bleeding, mangled or unconscious from the field. They were like the throngs who cheered the dismemberment of Christians in Roman coliseums or who turned public hangings into social events. The sheer unthinking brutality of these fans connected vaguely with Norman's Jewishness, summoning disturbing ancestral echoes of murderous mobs, or porgroms and Kristallnacht.
The Les Miles debacle has definitely brought the "id fans" out of the woodwork.
1
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:19 am to timlan2057
No doubt about it. Luckily, the inmates aren't running the asylum at LSU.
timlan I spoke with someone from your neck of the woods last night, a big TAF and LSU Foundation supporter, and he said the season is going exactly how he expected. Losses to Florida and Alabama, and probably one other one. 9-3 is what he was shooting for. I can promise you this person is not "happy with mediocrity" as some on this board suggest. He has invested tons of time and money in this place. But he understands reality too. Some years line up to be great years, some not so much. A good coach can still recruit and have winning seasons in the "off" years, keeping the bus moving forward. Stovall, Archer, Hallman, Dinardo...these guys couldn't do that. The wheels fell off for them (actually, Hallman's bus was in reverse from day 1). The ole miss loss, as mind numbing as it was, was only one loss, and there's not a coach in America who can't look back at one game and say "man, I really blew it there." Nick Saban has noted plenty of times that he felt he screwed up as LSU's coach.
This is not to say everyone is blind and can't see any problems. But you have to let the season play out and judge things on the big picture of the season and state of the program.
timlan I spoke with someone from your neck of the woods last night, a big TAF and LSU Foundation supporter, and he said the season is going exactly how he expected. Losses to Florida and Alabama, and probably one other one. 9-3 is what he was shooting for. I can promise you this person is not "happy with mediocrity" as some on this board suggest. He has invested tons of time and money in this place. But he understands reality too. Some years line up to be great years, some not so much. A good coach can still recruit and have winning seasons in the "off" years, keeping the bus moving forward. Stovall, Archer, Hallman, Dinardo...these guys couldn't do that. The wheels fell off for them (actually, Hallman's bus was in reverse from day 1). The ole miss loss, as mind numbing as it was, was only one loss, and there's not a coach in America who can't look back at one game and say "man, I really blew it there." Nick Saban has noted plenty of times that he felt he screwed up as LSU's coach.
This is not to say everyone is blind and can't see any problems. But you have to let the season play out and judge things on the big picture of the season and state of the program.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:20 am to Germano Tiger
incredible post, 500+, it should be mandatory reading for anyone who posts here
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:21 am to taddcalif
The id fans here are incredibly pompous and insufferable. Do they really think someone at LSU cares what they think?
You would never see Pete Carroll bashing like this.
You would never see Pete Carroll bashing like this.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News