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Just Dandy
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:35 am
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:35 am
DD reports on what he heard last night in the coach's radio show. Here is one caller and response that absolutely floors me...
So if Crowton is doing a good job with the QBs, then are both JL and JJ really that bad? I mean if they are being coached and developed, how bad could they have been before?
quote:OK, I guess I'm looking at a different set of QBs. I see poor JL who shouldn't be forced to go out there and embarrass himself any more. He has not progressed, he has regressed over two years, contrary to any kind of spin that young QBs develop. He's not. And to say JJ has been better this year is merely to say he is playing more and starting more, but does he have a field general's control of the offense? No. Does he look like he's heading in the direction of having that? No. Has he been being developed by Crowton into the kind of SEC-level QB that LSU needs? No.
Tim also asked Miles if he would consider hiring a quarterback coach to work with the young quarterbacks. Miles' reply was that Gary Crowton is a great coach and is doing a great job.
So if Crowton is doing a good job with the QBs, then are both JL and JJ really that bad? I mean if they are being coached and developed, how bad could they have been before?
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:38 am to JawjaTigah
That radio show is all bs. did you really expect miles to say crowton was shite for a qb coach and yes he needs to find a better one>?
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:41 am to JawjaTigah
What do you expect him to say? Would you prefer to have a coach who publicly throws his players and coaches under the bus?
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:43 am to Tyger1919
quote:What I expect is honesty. I mean we all say Coach LM is a real stand-up guy, exp. compared to the previous coach. But with the press and with the fans, he's less than honest and open. I expect he'd say, "Yes, I see we have problems developing our QBs. I am looking into the matter and it will be fixed." That would go a long way to helping me feel a bit of confidence in his judgment as a head coach - remember, that's the same judgment that gave us Maleveto last year.
did you really expect miles to say crowton
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:44 am to JawjaTigah
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So if Crowton is doing a good job with the QBs, then are both JL and JJ really that bad?
Yes. Crowton has a consistent resume. JJ and JL do not.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:44 am to JawjaTigah
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What I expect is honesty.
BS. We would hammer any coach who publicly slams his players and coaches.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:45 am to JustSmokin
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What do you expect him to say? Would you prefer to have a coach who publicly throws his players and coaches under the bus?
like j lee?
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:46 am to RBWilliams8
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like j lee?
link?
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:46 am to T1
quote:I have only the info gleaned from the resume police on the Rant to go by. If what I read is true, Crowton is one who always starts off pretty well, then it's a downhill slide to mediocrity. Is that what you are saying by "consistent?"
Crowton has a consistent resume.
quote:Oh and to respond to this shot, let's see... are you saying you'd rather the coach spin fairy tales to make you happy? I'd rather a coach who is direct and up-front about the pluses and minuses of his team and who takes charge in front of the microphones and the cameras. Ultimately Miles is responsible for the QB development, and if there is little to none, by throwing Crowton's name out there saying he's doing a great job when all of us who are breathing can see otherwise is the same as throwing him under the bus. I stand by what I said originally, "I expect honesty." And I would have appreciated Miles saying, "I can see we have a problem at QB, and am looking into it. It will be fixed." Nobody thrown under a bus, just a coach taking charge and responsibility for his team and staff.
BS. We would hammer any coach who publicly slams his players and coaches.
This post was edited on 11/19/09 at 7:53 am
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:48 am to JawjaTigah
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"Yes, I see we have problems developing our QBs. I am looking into the matter and it will be fixed." That would go a long way to helping me feel a bit of confidence in his judgment as a head coach - remember, that's the same judgment that gave us Maleveto last year.
i am sure that les is really worrying about your confidence in him...we had problems last year and he took care of it...if nothing changes next year, then you can worry, but for now let les do his job
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:50 am to JawjaTigah
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What I expect is honesty. I mean we all say Coach LM is a real stand-up guy, exp. compared to the previous coach. But with the press and with the fans, he's less than honest and open. I expect he'd say, "Yes, I see we have problems developing our QBs. I am looking into the matter and it will be fixed." That would go a long way to helping me feel a bit of confidence in his judgment as a head coach - remember, that's the same judgment that gave us Maleveto last year.
So your definition of a "stand up guy" is for him to publicly call out the guy that works for him huh? Brilliant ranter.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:51 am to JawjaTigah
If you remember Miles was saying the same thing last year about the D and the coaches.
Look what he did in the off season. I mean come on people are you all really that naive to believe a coach would just blast his staff in the middle of a season?
If so why would anyone want to work for a guy like that?
Look what he did in the off season. I mean come on people are you all really that naive to believe a coach would just blast his staff in the middle of a season?
If so why would anyone want to work for a guy like that?
This post was edited on 11/19/09 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:52 am to JawjaTigah
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Crowton is one who always starts off pretty well, then it's a downhill slide to mediocrity. Is that what you are saying by "consistent?"
He was at Tech from 95 to 99 and the offenses improved every year. He left Tech to go the NFL and he did well for 2 years before going to BYU as the head coach. BYU had a good offense, but a terrible defense and he was fired. He went to Oregon and did well and then he went to LSU and did well.
The bottom line is that he has done well wherever he has been and he was only fired once... due to poor defense by the team.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:55 am to T1
quote:Ok if you say so. I have been getting a different impression from others posting on his record here.
he has done well wherever he has been and he was only fired once... due to poor defense by the team.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:56 am to JawjaTigah
Lee may be beyond development...JJ, on the other hand, has been brought along more slowly and is progressing pretty well for a soph who had several issues to overcome. Crowton said their conversations and drills in the off week were the best they've had, and JJ has played fine since. You really don't expect a QB to be "developed" until their junior year any way...so, to this point, I don't have a big problem with JJ's development.
as far as the "I'll get that fixed" response, that may be the most laughed at Miles-phrase in the history of the rant...
as far as the "I'll get that fixed" response, that may be the most laughed at Miles-phrase in the history of the rant...
Posted on 11/19/09 at 7:59 am to ForeLSU
quote:True, but it at least suggests he's conscious of the problem. What scares me is the lack of skill position adjustments along the season that might indicate some awareness and effort is being made to utilize the talent and level of skill/experience this whole team represents.
as far as the "I'll get that fixed" response, that may be the most laughed at Miles-phrase in the history of the rant...
Posted on 11/19/09 at 8:04 am to JawjaTigah
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Ok if you say so
What is LSU's record since he has been OC?
I know there were alot of losses last year, but wasn't that due to a poor defense?
Posted on 11/19/09 at 8:06 am to JustSmokin
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BS. We would hammer any coach who publicly slams his players and coaches.
Some clowns here would hammer Miles if he pulled crippled kids from a burning bus. Would moan that he should have spent that time recruiting or watching film.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 8:09 am to I-59 Tiger
can we get over expecting Miles to actually give out any information or affirm any concerns from the fans? no way the coach of a major program at a major university is going to roll his people under the bus. Please for the love of God quit hanging on every word coach says....
Posted on 11/19/09 at 8:12 am to JawjaTigah
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What I expect is honesty
Has any team ever gotten this from their coach in the history of football? Where do you think the term "coach talk" came from?
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remember, that's the same judgment that gave us Maleveto last year.
And he fired him when it didn't work.
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