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Two Point Conversion Note

Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:19 pm
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16708 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:19 pm
LSU leads 15-10 with 3:19 left in the 3Q and goes for 2.

Yesterday,
New England leads Miami 22-16 with 3:15 left in the 3Q and goes for 2.

Just a note that it was not as bad of a decision as some people think.

Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
22249 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:20 pm to
it was the CORRECT call. Mathematically, at the time, was the ONLY call to make.

Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28040 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:20 pm to
Yep, all that did was make it where we would have to score a td and then get the two point conversion.
Posted by Abdullah the Butcher
Member since Feb 2009
409 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:22 pm to
wrong. wrong wrong. If we would have continued to play like we did in the first half then bama could have easily hit two field goals. think about it.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27113 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:22 pm to
It was the right call.

LSU kicks the extra point and Bama wins 17-16. What do you think people would be saying??

Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16692 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:23 pm to
New England has Tom Brady and we have JL.

that has to be taken into account too.
Posted by mannybeingmanny
Member since Aug 2009
1614 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:24 pm to
It was 100% the right call.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

LSU kicks the extra point and Bama wins 17-16. What do you think people would be saying??


Thank you. It was the right call. I was happy Miles did this. The idea of "wait till the 4th quarter" is b.s. It's better to try in the 3rd when there is more time. We were ahead and had we made it, it would have put more pressure on them.
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:25 pm to
Not sure we would hear any complaining had LSU made the 2 pt conversion. Yeah, sort of like if LSU would not have made one of those 4th down runs vs Florida a couple of seasons ago.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Just a note that it was not as bad of a decision as some people think.


Yeah, it's certainly debatable, but still, I think it was a bad decision, and an even worse one considering (1) the nature of LSU's offense, and (2) Bama's red zone difficulties.
Posted by tigerO
Member since Mar 2006
1406 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:31 pm to
Seems like the only call to make. I was stunned that it was even mentioned.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

LSU kicks the extra point and Bama wins 17-16.


But that's only one possibility out of many, and quite frankly, not one that's very likely. What if LSU kicked a field goal to go ahead 18-10, and then Bama came back and won the game in OT after a 18-18 tie?

There was just waaaay too much time left to change away from regular procedure at that point.
Posted by Joe Banks
Waponi Woo
Member since May 2008
615 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:47 pm to
I would not have gone for two in that situation but that is not what bothers me. What bothers me is Miles put one finger up and said go for one after the TD. You can hear it on the audio. You then hear someone else say go for two and then Miles says "go for two, you got to go for two".
He should have known long before the TD whether we would go for one or two. It just seems he hadn't thought it through yet and that bothers me.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:55 pm to
You can't use the future to help make the decision. Going up by a TD means one play can't beat you. That is at least my logic. I would be more scared of Ingram breaking a ridiculous TD run then the idea of possibly trading field goals.

The reason we were out of the game was because of injuries and a few missed calls. It wasn't this call.
Posted by sfurnish
Sugar Land
Member since Sep 2007
407 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:55 pm to
I think it was the correct call...I think the chart i linked to confirms it. I think most coaches use something like this. I don't know if I read it right.

2-point chart
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

He should have known long before the TD whether we would go for one or two. It just seems he hadn't thought it through yet and that bothers me.

Agreed
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64564 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

I don't know if I read it right


You didn't, because at the top, all charts should read.

NEVER LOOK AT THIS CHART UNTIL THE 4TH QUARTER


Having said that, I said at the time I wouldn't have gone for two, but it is not a "fireable offense".
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:06 pm to
Well according to the chart a feeling of about 25% of converting was needed. I think we had that. I think he was thinking if I go up by a TD a big play can't beat me.

I personally think we win if we don't have all the injuries.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 1:08 pm
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12286 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

LSU leads 15-10 with 3:19 left in the 3Q and goes for 2.

Yesterday,
New England leads Miami 22-16 with 3:15 left in the 3Q and goes for 2.

Both are horrible decisions. It's amazing how many times you'll see this wrong decision made at the highest of levels. For some reason, a lot of coaches seem incapable of looking beyond just the next score even when so much time is left.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:09 pm to
I thought it was a good call. I wanted Les to be more aggressive, and I'm glad he was
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