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It is Unfair to Keep Reminding Us of Lee's Picks

Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:37 pm
Posted by geaux4geauxldtigah
Virginia
Member since Oct 2009
150 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:37 pm
Our offense is lackluster you can say. Not much production from having a squad of "great athletes." I have read talk of the possibility of Jarrett Lee coming back this year, but each time I am reminded of the pick 6's that cost us.

Although I must say that is a downer, let's also remember that we were also undefeated last year heading into the Florida game (4-0 last year) with Lee at the helm. Once the Florida game was done last year and we got to the heart of the SEC schedule, yes, Lee started to throw those INTs with much regularity.

I am not trying to suggest that the same thing can happen this year with Jefferson, but I truly think that Jefferson will now start to feel pressure to try to change his game, and may try to force throws that he has been eating in these first 6 games (especially because everyone is trying to make him make quicker decisions).

Once again, I hope that Jefferson does not make the same mistakes as Lee did last year, but the ingredients are there to make it a possibility for Jefferson to repeat the same actions as Lee did last year.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:40 pm to


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Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:42 pm to
For me im not against JL but its the same thing all over again from last year. Everyone is yelling for Jefferson because Lee was playing bad last year. In my opinion i don't think the result would be much different with Lee of Jefferson in there because the o line is having a lot of trouble.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20866 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:45 pm to
The pick-6's should be regarded as a fluke. He couldn't have done that had he been trying.

If one will distill out the non-dysfunctional games JL played in: a) before Hatch got hurt and he could be spelled for a series or so and b) where he wasn't expected to run in a track meet (UF and UGA) JL did ok for a RS Fr.

Anyone want to imagine JJ (the '09 version) against UF in the Swamp last year?
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:47 pm to
once they figured out hatch had no arm it pretty much forced JL to be the starting qb last year. When hatch was playing every team had 9 guys in the box every play
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Anyone want to imagine JJ (the '09 version) against UF in the Swamp last year?



Sure. We'd have lost something along the lines of 24-3.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

The pick-6's should be regarded as a fluke.


Absolutely. Not just the pick-6's, every pass that Jarrett Lee threw last year that did NOT result in an LSU touchdown was a fluke.

The dude is a fricking legend. Fate cast him a cruel, cruel hand last season.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20866 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:50 pm to
You really think Malleveto would have held UF to 24 pts last year? That's not even sober.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 10:54 pm to
When you run as much clock as LSU did and don't turn the ball over then yes. It's easy to hold even great teams to 24 points.

See: UF v's Tenn this year.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20866 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 11:02 pm to
Other than OU did anyone hold UF to 24 pts or less in '08?

PS: we didn't run the ball worth a flip against UF in '08.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33353 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

It is Unfair to Keep Reminding Us of Lee's Picks
Well the Rant keeps reminding us that Les Miles sucks because of a Tennessee loss in '05, so using that logic I would say it's fair.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33353 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Absolutely. Not just the pick-6's, every pass that Jarrett Lee threw last year that did NOT result in an LSU touchdown was a fluke.

The dude is a fricking legend. Fate cast him a cruel, cruel hand last season.
Didn't you hear? None of it was his fault, the offense couldn't tackle!
Posted by Tigersense
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
8 posts
Posted on 10/18/09 at 11:34 pm to
Lee threw interceptions in the LSU scrimages.
Lee does not like to get hit. Our offense line is not blocking. I think Lee will throw even more picks than last year if he gets into the game. Common Sense tells you that he will. It is not a quarterback problem but an offense line problem. I think they should roll Jefferson out and let the defenses become concerned with a run or pass situation.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 1:36 am to
quote:

I think they should roll Jefferson out and let the defenses become concerned with a run or pass situation.


Absolutely.

More shotgun, more designed rollouts, more run/pass options for JJ, and more of the legendary LSU WR screens that we've abandoned since UW for some inexplicable reason.
Posted by rtgr
New Orleans/Jackson Wyoming
Member since Nov 2005
2528 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 1:50 am to
quote:

Didn't you hear? None of it was his fault, the offense couldn't tackle!


Didn't you hear, sonnyboy. The picks WERE his fault and the offense couldn't tackle. THAT fact seems to be lost on the idiots of this board.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79934 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 1:53 am to
so its safe to assume lee has not improved at all since then, right?
Posted by Tigermite
Member since Nov 2004
957 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 2:27 am to
according to all the Lee haters the very thought of the chance that Lee might be improved is pure insanity. But that fact is no one fricking knows. I've been a JJ supporter, but seeing how the offense has struggled I would love to see if JL could provide some kind of spark. I'm curious to see if he has improved.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 2:35 am to
For Lee though everyone assumes that hes over if the go to receiver isn't open still try to get it into him mentality. Both JJ and JL have shown that going through their progressions for receivers is a big problem.
Posted by Tigermite
Member since Nov 2004
957 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 2:49 am to
yeah but the thing is JL showed that LAST YEAR. young qb's do have the ability to mature and progress in their careers. everyone just automatically assumes that since he was so horrible last year he's gonna be horrible this year. and thats ridiculous. hell he might be, but no one knows.
Posted by SimonSlick
Member since Oct 2007
3885 posts
Posted on 10/19/09 at 3:01 am to
I'm certainly ready for Miles and Crowton to give him a shot. I'm a JJ supporter, but right now he's not getting it done.
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