re: Miles ranked 28th in Rivals?

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a monkey could have done those things. I think DiNardo would have done better with the same talent that Miles has had.

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Are you a Bama fan? You sure sound like one.

Miles isn't top five, but he's defintley higher then 28. Some of the coaches that are ranked ahead of him have no business being ahead of Miles. And why is he penalized for taking over a great program? Was he supposed to turn down the LSU job because the program was in too good of shape?

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Tell me one time where that has cost us the game.

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kentucky

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Miles in coaching is somewhere in the 2nd 10, probably 14-15 is fair.

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Go ahead, name the 13-14 ahead of him in your mind.

In my mind, I'd have to say the following coaches are better than Miles:
- Pete Carroll
- Bob Stoops
- Urban Meyer

Then you have the second tier which in my mind, are about the same as Miles
- Jim Tressel
- Nick Saban
- Mack Brown
- Frank Beamer
- Joe Paterno
- Steve Spurrier
- Bobby Bowden

The next tier of coaches are a sliver behind the Miles class
- Houston Nutt
- Mike Leach
- Mark Richt
- Rich Rod
- Jeff Tedford
- Bobby Petrino

And lastly, the following coaches have potential, but we will never really know until they go to a real program
- Greg Schiano
- Brian Kelly
- Jim Grobe
- Bobby Johnson

Y'all will miss Miles when he's gone. I'll guarantee you that.

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he will damn sure make you scratch your head and wonder "WTF?"

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OK, I'm not disagreeing with you, but EVERY coach makes calls that make you scratch your head. Come on now.

The overwhelming majority of people on this board analyze the F out of this one particular team called LSU. So we can knit pick at everything, that's what the rant is for. But every fan board for every college team can do and does the same exact thing. If I followed any other team as closely as I follow LSU I would be able to tear those team's coaching decisions to pieces.

That being said, does anyone remember the play where Ohio State lost their bowl game last year? The linebackers all rushed and left the middle of the field open. That was a terrible call, a want-to-be LSU defensive move. And they failed. The coach of that team (Tressel) would be hanging from the f'ing gallows if he did to LSU what we've seen done to tOSU the past few years.

Hey JYD, yea I agree that losing to Arkansas in 07 was inexcusable and rediculous and hurt really bad. But you are a pretty fair weather fan to say you completely jumped off the bandwagon because of that one loss.

That would be like if USC fans (and the media for that matter) had said the same thing when all they had to do beat was a mediocre UCLA team in LA to go to NC game in 06 and couldn't score more than 7 points in the game and lose.

The great Pete Carrol must be a horrible coach for that one, in fact because of that one loss (he couldn't even get his team of All-American's up for one game against a pathetic UCLA team with the NC game birth on the line for PETE'S sake) he deserves to be ranked about 50 out of the best coaches even though he has an incredible bowl record and overal record the past 7 years. You see how rediculous that sounds? That's just what you are saying when you call out LM for the same thing. The difference of course was Miles came back the next week and won his Conference with a backup QB and then the actually wins the NC a month later. you forget to add that part

To address your point about the NC being so crappy that year, sure, it was a down year overall and there probably won't be another 12-2 NC team in many many years, maybe ever again. That in no way deminishes what that team accomplished, being National Champs for 2007. That's another point I'm so sick of hearing from supposedly LSU fans and critics alike.

You don't hear anybody ever question the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers team that finished the regular season 11-5 and snuck into the playoffs on the last day of the regular season as a wildcard team. You know why? Cause they made it to the Super Bowl and won the damn thing! all you can do is win the games you play and if you get the chance to play for a ring and you win then your champs end of story.

You never heard anybody ever go back and nitpick the steelers year in 2005 and talk about how many games they lost in the regular season and how they are proabbly the worst Super Bowl winners ever. No you don't! People talk about how they got hot at the end of the regular season and caught fire in the playoffs and were Super Bowl champs, best team in 2005, end of story!!

Stoops, Carrol and Saban are three of the most overated coaches in college football.

Stoops has been exposed so many times but yet he's still considered one of the best?

No one gets the talent Carroll gets and none of the top coaches coach in a weaker conference. If all you have to do is have top talent to win NCs this guy has failed big time.

And now we have the great Saban. The UAB, ULM and Utah losses are enough to knock him out of the top 5. How can you say he's a better X and O coach than Miles when he got his arse handed to him by Utah and defense is his specialty.

I am not gonna say CLM is the best but I can't see how these guys get passes on their flaws when Miles don't.

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no butch davis in that list?

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yea, loses all credibility. also, he seems to refer to what he thinks will happen. example: nick saban WILL bring alabama to the top. he rates the utah coach high because he took what meyer did and made it better. don't guess that applies to Coach Miles. would love to see this guys rating next yr. bet our coach is around a lot longer than the majority of his top 25.

Hey Ray Ray Rodman, you say a monkey could have won the NC with the talent Miles had, funny how the same was never said when I guess it should have been said when these ELITE COACHs are considered:


#1 Meyer won his first championship in his second year with Ron Zook's players.With the incredible shape of the University and factoring in the players UF was left for Meyers to come in and coach, really, when you think about it, A monkey could have won that season too, I guess, considering he had all that talent. Look at all the players on that team who are in the NFL now, why does he deserve any credit for just being lucky to coach that incredibly talented team that championship year?

Really, according to you he only deserves real accolades for this past years (08) championship run. Come to think of it, with the talent he had on that team last year I bet a monkey could have coached that team as well.

HEY!! Wait a minute!! that just gave me an idea with the talent coming back for UF this year, what meyer should do is just sit back this fall and relax at the beach cause if there was ever a team that would be capable of being coached by a monkey,gorilla, or other type of primate and definatly win a NC it's this team!! We could even give Meyer the credit too cause after all he recruited them, and that's all that really matters as for as who deserved credit for winning championships right?

No. 2: Bob Stoops winning his only championship with John Blake's talent 2 years after he took over OU. Guess a monkey could have won with that talent and the shape the programe was at OU? Why couldn't stoops get er done down the road with his own recruits in championship games??

Exhibit #3-- Jim Tressell his only championship in his second year at Ohio State with almost all John Cooper's recruits. Do i have to say it again? Of course is do!! With the shape The University of Ohio State was in when Tressel got there, seriousl man, A monkey could have won with all the players on that team as well hmmm

Look, I get where your coming from Ray Ray, but seriously dude, don't you think your coming off a little over the top, and on a broader issue it's so cliche and easy for the media and fans to blow Miles off with that kind of answer, but when you throw out actual facts about other coaches that have done the exact same thing and they actually get credit for it, kinda makes you mad if your an LSU fan.


I'm not a P&G glass homer by any means, I'm expecting big things and a tighter run, more displined team like the next guy on this board from LM this year. But give the man some freaking credit where it's due please!!

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consistency

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He hasn't been here long enough to determine how consistent he is. Last season certainly did not resemble any of the previous three.

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Hey JYD, yea I agree that losing to Arkansas in 07 was inexcusable and rediculous and hurt really bad. But you are a pretty fair weather fan to say you completely jumped off the bandwagon because of that one loss.

That would be like if USC fans (and the media for that matter) had said the same thing when all they had to do beat was a mediocre UCLA team in LA to go to NC game in 06 and couldn't score more than 7 points in the game and lose.

The great Pete Carrol must be a horrible coach for that one, in fact because of that one loss (he couldn't even get his team of All-American's up for one game against a pathetic UCLA team with the NC game birth on the line for PETE'S sake) he deserves to be ranked about 50 out of the best coaches even though he has an incredible bowl record and overal record the past 7 years. You see how rediculous that sounds? That's just what you are saying when you call out LM for the same thing. The difference of course was Miles came back the next week and won his Conference with a backup QB and then the actually wins the NC a month later. you forget to add that part

To address your point about the NC being so crappy that year, sure, it was a down year overall and there probably won't be another 12-2 NC team in many many years, maybe ever again. That in no way deminishes what that team accomplished, being National Champs for 2007. That's another point I'm so sick of hearing from supposedly LSU fans and critics alike.

You don't hear anybody ever question the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers team that finished the regular season 11-5 and snuck into the playoffs on the last day of the regular season as a wildcard team. You know why? Cause they made it to the Super Bowl and won the damn thing! all you can do is win the games you play and if you get the chance to play for a ring and you win then your champs end of story.

You never heard anybody ever go back and nitpick the steelers year in 2005 and talk about how many games they lost in the regular season and how they are proabbly the worst Super Bowl winners ever. No you don't! People talk about how they got hot at the end of the regular season and caught fire in the playoffs and were Super Bowl champs, best team in 2005, end of story!!

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point taken, but me 'jumping off of miles bandwagon' does not mean i'm a fair weather fan. I'm just not a miles fan. i didn't want them to hire him in the first place b/c there were better coaches out there at the time and i was hoping he would go to michigan in 07. 2 things about your argument w/carroll though i want to point out also. 1) usc's loss to ucla was a rivalry game and we all know anything can happen there. even though LSU and ark are bordering states it is anything but a rivalry. you cannot lose to a double digit underdog at home w/the national championship in your sights. 2) usc's loss to ucla was their 1st and only loss while ark was LSU's 2nd after they had already loss to KY who was another middle of the road sec team. like i said earlier miles can make me a believer with a 10-2 or better season this year.

one more thing..you comparing LSU to the Steelers is apples and oranges. you can't compare the 2. the steelers won their way into the superbowl. LSU backed into the BCS.