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re: Whale Wars

Posted on 7/29/09 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Ye_Olde_Tiger
Member since Oct 2004
1200 posts
Posted on 7/29/09 at 4:19 pm to
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who are blatantly breaking the law and illegally killing whales


International Whaling Laws

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In 1946, the International Whaling Convention (IWC) was established to oversee the management of the whaling industry worldwide. It was established in response to the rapid decline in the population of whales from whaling. In 1986, the IWC instituted an indefinite ban on commercial whale. This ban is still in effect, with certain exceptions. Countries such as Japan and Norway have not honored the ban.



There are no laws being broken. And let's say just for a second that a law was being broken, who would have the authority to carry out enforcement of that law? Certainly not citizens from another country.

Globally, whaling has been deemed unethical. But in the case of international territory who has jurisdiction? Nobody. Or rather, the guy with the most pull. Its all politics, and the Steve Irwin has no authority to be there whatsoever. The whalers put up with those losers so long as they are still making money. The idiots on board the Steve Irwin and yourself may think that they are protected legally because they are using non-violent methods, but the only real protection they have is the fact that they are in international waters and they are going up against citizens from another country. In actuality the only people truly acting illegally are the crew of the Steve Irwin, but since they are on the side of what is considered acceptable by the majority of global governments they are, to this point, being given a pass.

If these nuts tried pulling all of these stunts on an American company, they would quickly be rounded up and arrested, not to mention being sued for any mechanical damage they may have caused.

Personally, I'd like to see some people join up as crew members for the Steve Irwin, then throw a mutiny, tie up the crew, and go whaling themselves. Now THAT would be good television!

Posted by lpd1975
The one and only B A Baracus
Member since Nov 2007
2786 posts
Posted on 7/29/09 at 4:35 pm to
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In 1946, the International Whaling Convention (IWC) was established to oversee the management of the whaling industry worldwide. It was established in response to the rapid decline in the population of whales from whaling. In 1986, the IWC instituted an indefinite ban on commercial whale. This ban is still in effect, with certain exceptions. Countries such as Japan and Norway have not honored the ban.


And to add to that, the Japanese vessels are technically not commercial whaling. They are collecting research samples. The collection of these samples kills the whales. So they make a profit off of the rest of the whale.

ETA: It might just be an excuse for whaling but it's not illegal.
This post was edited on 7/29/09 at 4:42 pm
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10234 posts
Posted on 7/29/09 at 4:35 pm to
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Globally, whaling has been deemed unethical. But in the case of international territory who has jurisdiction?


International fishing laws are a joke. I like this show and agree its total fail. But something needs to be done to inforce international fishing laws that are in force a supposed to preserve these species:

Whales
Bluefin & Yellowfin Tunas
Blue Marlin (mostly Mexican waters)
Swordfish

Yet all are overfished once in open waters.
Posted by Tigernuts
The Delta
Member since Sep 2007
148 posts
Posted on 7/29/09 at 4:40 pm to
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Personally, I'd like to see some people join up as crew members for the Steve Irwin, then throw a mutiny, tie up the crew, and go whaling themselves. Now THAT would be good television!

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