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re: 6 team regional format or super regional format

Posted on 5/30/09 at 1:56 am to
Posted by DArbonneDuke
D'Arbonne, LA
Member since Nov 2005
1462 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 1:56 am to
Baseball teams have their ups and downs. It takes some teams a little longer to find the right combination or line-up. The team that wins the college world series is probably the best team at that time.
ETA: Both formats worked for me. The 4 team regional may be easier to get thru for a #1 seed, but that super regional is the real test. But if you win a 6 team regional, well you've earned a CWS berth.
This post was edited on 5/30/09 at 2:01 am
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 2:03 am to
I loved the 6 team format.

game one - #3 vs. #4
game two - #2 vs. #5
game three - #1 vs. #6

game four - loser of game two vs. loser of game three
game five - winner of game three vs. loser of game one
game six - winner of game one vs. winner of game two

If you were the loser of game 1, you were screwed.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12513 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 3:54 pm to
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Do you feel the same way about the NFL?
As I said before, yes.
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The Giants lost twice to the best team in the NFC (Cowboys) & once to the best team in the AFC (Pats). 9 teams had has good or better record than the Giants. But they were the NFL champs.
I agree. In fact, I specifically used the Giants earlier as an example of what is wrong with the current NFL playoff system. I don't know that there is a better solution out there, but there are definitely some problems with the current one. Maybe there is no perfect system.
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Arizona Cardinals last year had the same record or worse as 8 other NFC teams. They were seconds away from being world champs
And it would not have come close to convincing me that they were the best team in the league last year.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12513 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 3:58 pm to
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It just seems to me that most sports other than college football have gotten it as right as it can be IMO
So if the Yankees post the best record in the history of baseball, going 140-22, and then lose one 5 game series 3-2, their whole season is absolutely meaningless, and you think that is "as right as it can be"? One 5 game series completely and totally outweighs an entire 162 games season? What it sounds like you're saying then is that the 162 game season has no point whatsoever, it's just a long exhibition period to give you more baseball to watch before the actual season that counts (playoffs) begins.

Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77799 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 4:01 pm to
6 team regional and bring back the one game to decide the NC...
Posted by jim712
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
1518 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 4:06 pm to
I'm okay with either format but they took a lot of the magic away when they decided to make the national championship matchup best 2 of 3 instead of one very special game. It's sort of anticlimatic now unless the two teams split the first two and that gets us back to where we were to begin with. Stupid idea. It wasn't broke was it?
Posted by Hideo Nomo
Put up both hands, drop one thumb
Member since Apr 2008
7457 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 4:09 pm to
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Interesting, because that is a bad thing imo. The only thing MLB ever got right was the way it crowned its champions before they started having playoffs. 140+ (now 160+) game seasons are ridiculous except for one thing: after you have played that many games, there is no meaningful doubt about who the best team is. There is no debate about one team getting hot "at the right time" or a fluke injury costing another team a few key games; over the course of 140+ games that shite will all even itself out. So what did MLB do? Screw it all up with a stupid playoff system, then make it all the worse by adding WILDCARDS! The very notion that a team that couldn't rise to the top over the course of a 162 game season suddenly becomes somehow more deserving because they won 4 games in a playoff series is laughable.


I am in complete agreement here.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8813 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 4:58 pm to
I see why the 6 team is popular but I like the current format for a few reasons. One, 6 game regionals are pitching meat grinders. good luck working your pitching through that. Two, by going to the current format the field expanded from 48 to 64 teams. More schools get a chance (to get shelayleed by the big boys) And three, ESPN televises ALL super regional games, it'd be harder to televise the 6 team format, thus more college baseball shown on a national level.

What do you all think about those three points? (Giving rationality a chance on the rant)
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12513 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 6:09 pm to
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What do you all think about those three points?
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One, 6 game regionals are pitching meat grinders. good luck working your pitching through that.
I don't think that's a bad thing. For one thing, everybody faces the same pitching grinder depending upon whether they win or lose (which is their own responsibility). For another thing, a lot of 4th, 5th and 6th pitchers make for a LOT more hitting. That's exciting.
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Two, by going to the current format the field expanded from 48 to 64 teams. More schools get a chance
Bad thing, imo. Fresno State had an amazing playoff run last year, but the fact they got a championship trophy simply proves that in college baseball, "National Champions" does not equal "best team in the country."
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And three, ESPN televises ALL super regional games, it'd be harder to televise the 6 team format, thus more college baseball shown on a national level.
If this really does translate to more national broadcasts of college baseball games, then it is an entirely valid point.

Posted by coolguy71261
Mer Rouge
Member since Mar 2005
1731 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 6:20 pm to
i will support the nfl by saying yes the NYG was the best but as for the redbirds no way they would have made it in any other division
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12513 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 6:29 pm to
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i will support the nfl by saying yes the NYG was the best
You really believe they had a better team that year than the 18-1 Patriots?

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