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Let's play make-believe: McClendon wasn't forced out...
Posted on 5/23/09 at 6:46 am
Posted on 5/23/09 at 6:46 am
When would he have retired? Would he have won another title, or was he completely burned out? How else would the LSU/CFB landscape have been affected?
Fates to consider:
Bo Rein
Jerry Stovall
Arnsparger/Archer
Florida State (would we have gotten Bowden)
Fates to consider:
Bo Rein
Jerry Stovall
Arnsparger/Archer
Florida State (would we have gotten Bowden)
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Posted on 5/23/09 at 6:52 am to xiv
quote:
Bo Rein
i wish he would have had his chance.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 6:57 am to tigerdup07
quote:An unproven Jerry Stovall took the Tigers to the Orange Bowl; Rein would have had a shot at a national title.
Bo Rein
I think that had McClendon not "retired," Rein would have ended up somewhere in the Big Ten with a couple rings on his fingers.
This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 6:59 am
Posted on 5/23/09 at 6:57 am to tigerdup07
Charley Mac should have tried to find him a real good offensive coordinator, because he was a defensive coach . . . His teams always had great defenses, he Achilles Heel was, he could not beat The Bear.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 6:59 am to 1965 2 plus 2
quote:but neither could anybody else, really.
he could not beat The Bear.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 7:01 am to baytiger
quote:This makes 1983-? very interesting. Could McClendon have competed with Auburn, Florida, and Tennessee in the 1980's? I see no reason why he couldn't have had one more good four-year span before being humiliated by Steve Spurrier in his final year or two.
quote:
he could not beat The Bear.
but neither could anybody else, really.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 7:07 am to xiv
He was a wonderful person. I briefly worked with his son-in-law at a Baton Rouge Engineering firm and got to meet Charley Mac in 1993. Real nice guy who bleed purple and gold, even after he was forced out at LSU.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 7:17 am to 1965 2 plus 2
quote:One of my best friends went to LSU thanks to Mac's scholarship fund (son of a former player). In 2001, I first developed my football ranking system (lots and lots of math
He was a wonderful person. I briefly worked with his son-in-law at a Baton Rouge Engineering firm and got to meet Charley Mac in 1993. Real nice guy who bleed purple and gold, even after he was forced out at LSU.
), and I had LSU ranked in the top ten with three losses. I kept telling people that we'd win the SEC title game and go to the Sugar Bowl, but nobody believed me. My friend visited McClendon on Friday, December 7, in the hospital, and told him what I'd said. My friend brought back a note written to me:quote:He died the next day. I tear up every time I see that note.
xiv,
You are a great Tiger. We will be #1. We ARE #1.
Coach Mac
This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 10:25 am
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:11 am to xiv
Great story, thanks for sharing. 
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:12 am to 1965 2 plus 2
"...he could not beat The Bear."
Who did "beat The Bear" at Bama during that period?
Mac's fate was/is the same as many coaches who experience a drop off in production after a making a big time run in excellence. Anyone checking out his record will note pretty much a nite and day difference between the results of his first 10 yrs and his last 5 or so.
Who did "beat The Bear" at Bama during that period?
Mac's fate was/is the same as many coaches who experience a drop off in production after a making a big time run in excellence. Anyone checking out his record will note pretty much a nite and day difference between the results of his first 10 yrs and his last 5 or so.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:14 am to xiv
Not to be morbid, but would he have been on that plane instead of Bo Rein?
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:18 am to xiv
quote:
Florida State (would we have gotten Bowden)
Why would that have changed? According to Bowden winning the LSU game in '79 basically saved him at FSU. We hired a new coach again in '84.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:24 am to xiv
quote:
My friend brought back a note written to me
That is really cool. Mac, because of his record against the Bear, was not fully appreciated by all LSU fans. But he was an excellent football coach.
This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:27 am to xiv
Too many variables in this scenario. If Coach Mac would have beaten USC in '79, he probably would have not been forced out. LSU would have gotten better than the Tangerine Bowl and recruiting would have been better for '80... but we still would have beat Fla. St down in '81! God, I love that game from Dalton Hilliard.
Pure magic with him scoring in the fog and oranges raining down. Still one of my favorite moments as a fan... sorry for getting off the subject.
Pure magic with him scoring in the fog and oranges raining down. Still one of my favorite moments as a fan... sorry for getting off the subject.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:42 am to ENYOMOUT
quote:
but we still would have beat Fla. St down in '81! God, I love that game from Dalton Hilliard
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Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:43 am to H-Town Tiger
Right.. '82. 
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:48 am to ENYOMOUT
quote:
If Coach Mac would have beaten USC in '79, he probably would have not been forced out.
Dude, it was the greatest game in Tiger Stadium ever, but it would not have changed anything about Coach McClendon leaving.
Paul Dietzel actually had to ask the board of supervisors to allow Coach McClendon to stay on for the '79 season. It was a done deal - he was already signed up to preside over the Tangerine Bowl committee the next year (or a similar organization).
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:51 am to BrockLanders
Charles McClendon died the day before the 2001 SEC Championship Game. Not 2003.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 9:52 am to BrockLanders
quote:
Dude, it was the greatest game in Tiger Stadium ever
I think this sums up the problem with LSU football at the time, a game we lost is considered the best game ever.
I'll take 97 when we actually beat the #1 team or the 2003 UGA game.
Posted on 5/23/09 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
I think this sums up the problem with LSU football at the time, a game we lost is considered the best game ever.
Yes, I know it sounds strange to people who didn't actually attend the game. But if you were there...
Just to give you sort of an alternate persepective - Pat Burrell (Miami player) has said that even though Miami lost the baseball national championship to LSU in '96 - he knows that it was the best and most exciting game ever.
That game was much more important, and he was able to take off his green and orange tinted glasses.
This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 10:01 am
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