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Loyola Law School

Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:07 pm
Posted by tmitch01
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
235 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:07 pm
Any opinions?
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:09 pm to
this is a good Money Talk topic imho
Posted by tmitch01
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
235 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:11 pm to
I do see other threads talking about schools...JACKASS
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:15 pm to
I have friends that have either graduated from or currently attend every law school in Louisiana. My friends that attended Loyola all enjoyed it. My understanding from everyone is that LSU is the most rigorous by far of all of the law schools but you can get a good education at any of them depending on what you put into it.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109599 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:24 pm to
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The price difference is staggering and the education you receive is as good at SULC. *Queue responses that people think Loyola is better thought of then SULC; said people don't realize anyone interviewing a student from either school must not care about where they went to school*


The caveat to this is, there are a lot of N.O. firms (and probably many in other parts of the state) who will interview students from Loyola, but won't consider those from SULC.

I'm not offering a comment on the relative merits of either school, just on the perception that I know of for a fact, which, for better or worse, is ultimately pretty damn important when looking for a job.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I probably just would have never went to law school if I couldn't have gotten into LSU.

This is my advice, with one minor exception. It's ok to go to Loyola if you get a good scholarship, and you know you never want to leave New Orleans. IMO Loyola is not worth it at full price; if the best deal you get is Loyola with no scholarship, don't go to law school.

So in summation:
Tulane: ok to go; ok to pay full price
LSU: ok to go; ok to pay full price if you never want to leave Louisiana or Texas.
Loyola: ok to go with scholarship if you never want to leave NOLA
Southern: ok to go with scholarship if you have a guaranteed job coming out and all you need is any JD.

ETA: LINK

What's your GPA/LSAT?
This post was edited on 3/17/09 at 3:39 pm
Posted by tmitch01
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
235 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

What's your GPA/LSAT


GPA: 3.57
LSAT: 155

I got a scholarship to Loyola, but I'm still waiting to hear from LSU.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

GPA: 3.57
LSAT: 155

I think that's on the cusp for LSU (although my info is a couple years out of date).

For the Loyola scholarship offer, make sure it is for all three years and not for just the first year. Some schools do this to get you in the door, then raise the price on you in year two. Same if it has a strict requirement to maintain the scholarship (like you have to stay in the top 10% of the class).
Posted by tmitch01
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
235 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 4:01 pm to
Thanks for all the help.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 4:15 pm to
I got into LSU for next year so maybe I'll see you there.
Posted by tmitch01
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
235 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

I got into LSU for next year so maybe I'll see you there.


How was your GPA and LSAT compared to mine?
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8201 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 4:26 pm to
There is a great site to check out that gives numbers on applicants to every law school. I myself am taking the LSAT in june and will be trying to get in Fall 2010 somewhere Loyola, LSU, Tulane, somewhere local. The site is lawschoolnumbers.com, it gives you info on the schools, and also gpa's and LSAT scores of the members of their site.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:25 pm to
3.5/155 is borderline.

Like other applicants have said, are you a minority? As it pains me to say it, if you are, that'll get you a full ride at LSU. If you're white, off hand you're looking at about a 20% shot.

Other shite factors in too, but race, LSAT, and GPA are 98%
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44090 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

whether you are willing to pay the difference in tuition between SULC and Loyola for the added benefit of job interviews with NO firms.


start at SULC then transfer to Loyola. Save $$$ and the degree still says Loyola.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

start at SULC then transfer to Loyola. Save $$$ and the degree still says Loyola.


Might be more trouble than it's worth.

My advise as an LSU grad is to not go to Law School. there are much easier ways to make a living and I know plenty of '08 LSU Law grads who cannot find a job even in louisiana.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

That is another option. Even better if you can xfer to LSU. Just bust arse your first year at SULC then xfer to your school of choice.


actually LSU doesnt allow transfers from southern. Not sure about the other schools.

LSU will start allowing transfers from southern next year (ie, please send us some black people so the ABA will get off our nuts)
Posted by Thomas Hudson
Dallas
Member since Dec 2006
7310 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:45 pm to
Yeah, but firm jobs might not be so scarce in a couple years.

My take on the OP: Loyola is worth it IF you can do very well AND if you want to stay in New Orleans. Otherwise, wait to hear from LSU. It's generally just not worth the expense.

That said, funny thing is that the only Louisiana law school graduate at my firm nationally is a partner who went to Loyola and then clerked for the LA supreme court. So go figure.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Yeah, but firm jobs might not be so scarce in a couple years.


even if the legal sector grows again, law schools wont stop churning out attorneys between now and then. Lets say there is a 90% employment rate, that still 10% of the classes of 08,09,10,11,and 12 that would be unemployed for him to compete with by the time he got out of law school.

I've got a shitload of debt coming out of LSU, enough to where I couldn't afford a job in the public sector. I cant imagine having 120k in loans fighting for the same jobs like loyola grads. That kind of debt is some serious handcuffing.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

I didn't know that. I know Tulane and Loyola takes them. Had a few classmates ship out after the 1st year.


It was some accreditation issue LSU conjured up in order to not have to deal with SULC transfer applicants.
Posted by Thomas Hudson
Dallas
Member since Dec 2006
7310 posts
Posted on 3/17/09 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

even if the legal sector grows again, law schools wont stop churning out attorneys between now and then. Lets say there is a 90% employment rate, that still 10% of the classes of 08,09,10,11,and 12 that would be unemployed for him to compete with by the time he got out of law school.


Not really. Firms hire first years primarily from their summer associate programs, and will continue doing so. He'll just be competing with his fellow 2Ls for those positions, not the students who graduated a year or two earlier.
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