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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:59 pm
Been studying for midterms all day, so if its already been posted, bite me. But I just thought this was hilarious:
I mean where do I begin?
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It seems any currency Miles earned by leading LSU to the 2007 BCS title vanished with last season's 8-5 clunker that saw the Tigers go 3-5 in the SEC. Now, Miles seemingly has to prove himself all over again. And he'll do it with a revised coaching staff. Talent never is an issue in Baton Rouge. It's up to Miles to coach 'em up.
I mean where do I begin?
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:16 pm to geauxtigahs87
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:20 pm to geauxtigahs87
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I mean where do I begin?
You begin with "he's" then end with "right."
Most people believe Miles won with Saban's talent and his talent alone. Sure Les coached them the majority of their careers, but it wasn't fully "his" team. The year that the majority of Saban's star players left, the wheels fell off. Not only did he lose 5 games, but he lost the team and the players. A national champion should NEVER quit on the field, and LSU did more than once last year.
He's made HIS staff. He's got HIS recruits. This is HIS mess, but he seems to have positioned LSU to be very good next year. He isn't paid to win a title then fall off the face of the Earth, so someone saying he needs to prove himself or earn his check is dead on.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:20 pm to geauxtigahs87
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last season's 8-5 clunker that saw the Tigers go 3-5 in the SEC
If the Tigers repeat that record next season, Miles will feel some heat.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:20 pm to geauxtigahs87
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It seems any currency Miles earned by leading LSU to the 2007 BCS title vanished with last season's 8-5
I wonder if he said the same thing about Urban Myers going 9-4 after winning the NC?
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:22 pm to LSURulzSEC
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I wonder if he said the same thing about Urban Myers going 9-4 after winning the NC
Don't wanna seem like I'm bashing LSU, but those situations aren't even close.
UF had a defense full of freshmen and one player carrying the load on offense. Plus, they were competitive in every loss. We had talent on defense and were embarrassed three times.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:23 pm to AlexLSU
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He's made HIS staff. He's got HIS recruits. This is HIS mess, but he seems to have positioned LSU to be very good next year. He isn't paid to win a title then fall off the face of the Earth, so someone saying he needs to prove himself or earn his check is dead on.
you should take a look back at SEC teams over the last few years and see just how close 11-2 teams were to being 7-6 and 7-6 teams were to being 11-2.. the margin for error is razor thin in this conference, and the smallest break, or inexperience at key positions make all the difference..
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:25 pm to Xenophon
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you should take a look back at SEC teams over the last few years and see just how close 11-2 teams were to being 7-6 and 7-6 teams were to being 11-2.. the margin for error is razor thin in this conference, and the smallest break, or inexperience at key positions make all the difference..
All comes down to coaching. You're right about one thing, LSU had 11-2 talent, but not 11-2 coaching, leadership on and off the field, or heart.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:25 pm to AlexLSU
And played without a quarterback all season. Geez... what a tool.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:26 pm to AlexLSU
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Don't wanna seem like I'm bashing LSU
Yet you are...
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We had talent on defense and were embarrassed three times.
We had talent that was not coached...remember we lost Pelini and replace with that 2 headed monster of DC...
Not to mention the QB situation that left the defense on the fieled WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long too many time in games...
This post was edited on 3/3/09 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:28 pm to LSURulzSEC
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Yet you are...
I'm being critical, but not bashing. Nothing I've said is false. I have no problem saying my team sucked when they did.
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We had talent that was not coached...remember we lost Pelini and replace with that 2 headed monster of DC...
I'm aware, and this was Miles' biggest fault last year. He chose his staff.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:29 pm to Xenophon
I'm so sick of this "Saban's players" shite.
Those were LSU's players....just like it's Florida's players and Bama's players and Aunburns' players. Anyone who believes otherwise can frick off.
Those were LSU's players....just like it's Florida's players and Bama's players and Aunburns' players. Anyone who believes otherwise can frick off.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:31 pm to Daigeaux
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I'm so sick of this "Saban's players" shite.
Those were LSU's players....just like it's Florida's players and Bama's players and Aunburns' players. Anyone who believes otherwise can frick off.
It is stupid, but there is no other situation in the country you can compare it, especially not UF and Bama.
UF - Shitty coach had talent, better coach did well with them.
Bama - Shitty coach had little talent, better coach did well with them.
LSU - Good coach had talent, another good coach holds serve with them.
It's a unique situation, which is why it draws the "saban's players"
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:31 pm to Xenophon
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you should take a look back at SEC teams over the last few years and see just how close 11-2 teams were to being 7-6 and 7-6 teams were to being 11-2.. the margin for error is razor thin in this conference, and the smallest break, or inexperience at key positions make all the difference..
It isn't just about the record.
The team seemed to flat out give up at times.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:33 pm to AlexLSU
I will praise Bama fans with one thing, no matter what Saban does he is a GOD.
At LSU fans only remember the negative
I doubt most Bama fans are focused on UTAH and instead on winning SEC West and recruiting.
LSU made 2 mistakes last year, one was needed and one wasnt. Kicking RP off the team and promoting the CO-Defensive Coordinators. Hard to win in conference like SEC (where all fans can admit is best conference) with those kinda issues. We had TALENT in name only. Hate to say is RJF was all hype based on certain plays or games. He did not play up to his level all year or all games. Neither did Bryd which didnt help Lee or JJ.
At LSU fans only remember the negative
I doubt most Bama fans are focused on UTAH and instead on winning SEC West and recruiting.
LSU made 2 mistakes last year, one was needed and one wasnt. Kicking RP off the team and promoting the CO-Defensive Coordinators. Hard to win in conference like SEC (where all fans can admit is best conference) with those kinda issues. We had TALENT in name only. Hate to say is RJF was all hype based on certain plays or games. He did not play up to his level all year or all games. Neither did Bryd which didnt help Lee or JJ.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:37 pm to AlexLSU
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I'm being critical, but not bashing. Nothing I've said is false.
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I have no problem saying my team sucked when they did.
The team sucking is false...yes Miles decision to go with co-dc's was the wrong move now (in hindsight) and the removable of RP was a huge impact not only for the offensive side of the ball but for the defense as well on being on the field too long yet despite all that LSU was still close to being a 10 win team again...
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:38 pm to Volvagia
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It isn't just about the record.
The team seemed to flat out give up at times.
when though?
In Bama, UGA, and UF, we just got beat by better teams with established QBs.. and were a couple plays from beating both UGA and Bama
In Ole Miss, they were hot, and just outplayed us all game..
Arkansas i might agree with you.. but we were leading in that game also..
so they 'may' have took a break or quit for 1 quarter against Arkansas???
regardless of coaching, if Perrilloux stays, that team is 10-3 at worst and Miles is known as a coach who will let anything go..
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:39 pm to AlexLSU
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Most people believe Miles won with Saban's talent and his talent alone
Just say it. You believe a little of Miles coaching helped us in 07 but 99% of it should be attributed to the players for just being great players when they were recruited.
Stupid opinions like that are reserved for other team's fans to try and downplay our coach. And you sound just like them. quote:
the year that the majority of Saban's star players left, the wheels fell off.
And I guess thats it huh? Sabans recruits left and we had a average record. I guess there's only one explanation. Case closed. That's insanely narrow minded and yet again, stupid. quote:
but he lost the team and the players. A national champion should NEVER quit on the field,
We're NOT a national championship team. That was last year, this is this year. And Saban lost his players last year after their loss against us, so I guess he's overrated too right?
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:43 pm to Xenophon
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when though?
Florida? During the 3rd quarter, we quit.
Ole Miss? Having OM take a knee up by 18 on senior day doesn't make you think we gave up? I watched every minute of that game, and LSU gave up.
Troy? Didn't play like we gave the slightest frick for 2 1/2 quarters.
Arkansas? Up 30-14, frick it, don't play anymore.
GT and Bama were the only games we played 100% the whole year.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 10:45 pm to Xenophon
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In Bama, UGA, and UF, we just got beat by better teams with established QBs
I buy that argument with UGA and Bama, NOT with UF.
Talent and even experience wise overall they were not 30 points better than us.
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In Ole Miss, they were hot, and just outplayed us all game..
And why did they outplay us? Just because they were "hot?" How did you conclude that was the answer?
Look, you can come up with a hodgepoge of excuses of independent reasons of apparently the star aligning to make everything go against LSU all of a sudden. I am not claiming to know what happened for if it even had anything to do with coaching directly. I am just saying the team as a whole seemed to lack of the tenacity I saw from LSU in every game I have seen except maybe 2005 Tennessee.
And because I doubt sheer exhaustion could be the season long reason, I am just going to attribute it to them giving up for whatever reason.
This post was edited on 3/3/09 at 10:47 pm
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