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Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to *&@# with...

Posted on 4/13/26 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 9:40 pm
First ballot RRHOF inductees.

Also stoked to see Joy Division/New Order and Luther Vandross get in as well.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 9:41 pm
Posted by wesfau
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:19 am to
Old Dirty, formerly known as Dirt McGirt, has rebranded as the Old Dirty Chinese Restaurant.
Posted by Uatu
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:44 am to
I’m sporting my Wu tee today!
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:03 pm to
Awesome. A “band” that doesn’t play a single instrument or actually sing was just elected to the RRHOF.

The decline of western civilization continues.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:37 pm to
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A “band” that doesn’t play a single instrument or actually sing was just elected to the RRHOF.


You're right. RZA doesn't play a single instrument. He plays about a dozen...

This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 10:40 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:30 pm to
I hate to tell you chief, but in that video he's playing a sampler and a drum machine along with a synth and kalimba (which I have no idea what he was trying to do).

I can assure you without a shadow of a doubt, if I asked him to learn to play a single Steely Dan song on piano it would take him a month to pick it out by ear.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 7:33 pm to
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he's playing a sampler and a drum machine along with a synth and kalimba


And I hate to tell you, those are still instruments. Just because you don't LIKE it or have some other definition of "instrument" doesn't make you right.



This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 7:34 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 8:56 pm to
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…those are still instruments.


How do you create anything original using a sampler?

My intense dislike of rap is based on the inability of the vast majority of “performers” to write an original piece of music or play a traditional instrument or actually sing.

Those three things are pretty important to me.

I’m no big fan of Iron Maiden, but those guys spent decades learning their instruments, perfecting their song writing and developing their voice. To become that proficient with a guitar means spending a great deal of your younger life alone, dedicated to your instrument.

Meanwhile Wu Tang gets in for sampling the original creations of others and talking into a microphone.

I’m sorry but that’s simply a slap in the face to bands like Maiden. Give the rappers their own HOF.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:16 pm to
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How do you create anything original using a sampler?


Really? Go listen to Paul's Botique and get back to me.

I'm tired and up way past my bedtime. To be continued.....

Oh and BTW: Iron Maiden also used samples in their music, ie: The prisoner....
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 11:20 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27137 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:58 am to
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Paul’s Botique


Good stuff. I loved how they decided to become musicians. Earned my respect.

If by “samples” on the Iron Maiden tracks you’re referencing SFX or historical dialogue, I have no issue with that. Think Living Color and Cult of Personality. “All we have to fear, is fear itself.”
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 5:23 am to
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If by “samples” on the Iron Maiden tracks you’re referencing SFX or historical dialogue, I have no issue with that.


Ok. Philosophically, what's the difference? One band who's good at playing instruments uses a vocal sample and another band who's good at vocals uses a musical sample? If both are integrating pre-existing sound into a new context, your distinction seems to rest more on cultural expectations than on any real difference in the act itself.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 9:47 am
Posted by Friendly Satan
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 6:09 am to
Big Baby Jesus
Posted by wesfau
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 7:35 am to
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I loved how they decided to become musicians


Tell me you don't know squat about the Beasties without...
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34301 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

quote:

quote:I loved how they decided to become musicians


Tell me you don't know squat about the Beasties without...


Right?

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27137 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:44 pm to
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I loved how they decided to become musicians


Tell me you don't know squat about the Beasties without...


I know they were punk rockers (not musicians) prior to getting into rap. Playing an instrument and then deciding to take the risk of breaking away from what's made you famous are two different things.

Not to mention, Sabotage for example isn't punk rock with rapping over it. The song is pretty funky.

I'm not sure if the Beasties are in the RRHOF or not, but if they are, I have zero issue with it. They expanded their boundaries, honed their craft and went beyond your average rap artists.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27137 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

quote:I loved how they decided to become musicians


Tell me you don't know squat about the Beasties without...


Right?


See above........
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:51 pm to
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See above...


Dude, you're talking with someone who saw the Beastie Boys BEFORE Licensed to Ill dropped.....
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