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Shower hardware replacement

Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:37 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25728 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:37 pm
I am replacing the hardware in my shower. Is there anything I have to worry about with switching brands? Are the internals the same for all? I seem to remember when I first moved in, I replaced hardware on bathtubs, and my first purchase couldn't be used. Thanks.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20135 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:56 pm to
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Are the internals the same for all?


The valves will be completely different among brands

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25728 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:58 pm to
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The valves will be completely different among brands



Thanks. I assume the valve comes with the new hardware for the plumber?
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1078 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:11 pm to
Are you changing out everything or just the trim kit (IE tubspout, handles, etc). If your just changing the trim kit it needs to be same brand. If your changing out everything it doesn't matter because your changing out everything and it comes with trim, valve body, valve etc.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25728 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:13 pm to
Changing the handle and head. Going from Glacier Bay to Delta. Also changing dual sink fixtures.
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
2261 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:44 pm to
As mentioned, the mixing values will be different. The tub filler should just unscrew and you would screw on the new one, unless it’s a different length. Some plumbers use a copper stub out that’s sautered at the 90°, out the wall, from the mixing value so that might get a little technical if you need to adjust length.

If you don’t plan on demoing the shower, you can cut an access on the rear of the wet wall to access shower valve. Be aware that the existing shower valve is most probably anchored to some dead wood that will need to be surgically removed. Before you can cut the valve loose and reattach new value.

Make sure you purchase a value with the same number of functions.

Depending on valve size & how much play you have with the pipes, you might need to offset the water lines a bit so if you’re going to cut an access, make sure it’s larger enough. You can Amazon almost any size access panel to finish off the hole you’ve cut. I’ve also made them afterward with scrap plywood and 1x.

Good luck!
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
95892 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Going from Glacier Bay to Delta


Plumber guy over the weekend said that GB was actually Delta but branded for Home Depot. Not sure if that is true or not.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25728 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Plumber guy over the weekend said that GB was actually Delta but branded for Home Depot. Not sure if that is true or not.


That is not what the google is telling me.

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No, Glacier Bay and Delta are not the same brand. Glacier Bay is a proprietary, budget-friendly brand owned by Home Depot, while Delta is a distinct, higher-quality manufacturer. While some Glacier Bay products may copy Delta designs or use similar, interchangeable parts, they differ significantly in material quality, durability, and price.


quote:

Glacier Bay is a private-label brand owned exclusively by The Home Depot. These budget-friendly faucets are manufactured by various third-party suppliers, primarily including overseas manufacturers like Globe Union Industrial Corp and Lota International, which produce the items in China, Taiwan, and Israel.
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1078 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:21 pm to
You better make sure that delta handle fits that Glacier Bay mixing valve first. I'm not sure trim kits fit across multiple brands.

I'd just swap out the valve as well. Delta is much better than GB. I'd suggest buying your new Delta from a plumbing supply house, and not Lowes or HD.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 2:26 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25728 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:30 pm to
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I'd suggest buying your new Delta from a plumbing supply house, and not Lowes or HD.


Why?
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1078 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:33 pm to
Cheaper components in the faucets from big box. More plastic vs brass.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51429 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:39 pm to
No reason to use the supply warehouse. That's what your plumber uses and adds another 25% on top of.

If HD or Lowes have Delta, and the plumbing warehouse has Delta, if they are the same model number, they're exactly the same. Anyone telling you different is FOS.
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1078 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:50 pm to
Supply houses and big box rarely sell the same model #'s. Very similar but you're going to get more plastic with the big box. But do as you see fit....from a family of plumbers I've put both in. For my own home I will not install a faucet from home depot/lowes.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 3:52 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45073 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:54 pm to
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Thanks. I assume the valve comes with the new hardware for the plumber?
Does not. Once you buy or choose the trim kit, read the specs and it will tell you what valve you need.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
61732 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:23 pm to
I am still not exactly clear on what you mean by “hardware”

Are you replacing the whole faucet or just some components of the faucet, showerhead or drain?
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26498 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:13 am to
You will have to replace the whole thing. I just ran into this doing some work at a neighbors house. There were no markings so I pulled the valve and found markings to tell it was Glacier Bay. Glacier Bay no longer made the valve/diverter set up she had so she bought a whole new Delta set up. I opened the wall and pulled it. Upon doing this I discovered the plumber sweated fittings on because if the threaded adapters were installed the valve did not fit in the wall so I had to notch the studs to make it fit. Some of those valve bodies say not to sweat to them even if the internals are removed so I suspect that’s why her Glacier Bay didn’t seem to work. Make sure your plumber follows the instructions.
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