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"???" For "MUH" Corrupt Political Establishment DENIERS. After MN, Do U STILL Think It's..

Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:13 pm
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:13 pm
....just a "conspiracy theory?"

I mean, some of you have dismissed the decade-long attacks on Trump as coincidence or even said that they were staged, although nobody has ever answered my question regarding how the bullet in Butler was "staged" in order to miss Trump's brain by an inch or so.

So now we have this massive corruption that is being exposed in Minnesota. This corruption has been both a Federal and local joint effort. Oh, and you cant say there's nothing to this because over 50 people have already pled guilty.

So my question, to posters like SFP and others who have always ridiculed the idea of "Muh Deep State" is:

Do you see it NOW? Can you FINALLY see it?
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 7:15 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:14 pm to
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[embed]Do you see it NOW? Can you FINALLY see it?[/embed]


I see your formatting error
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:16 pm to
There’s no amount of evidence that can be presented by the Trump administration or anyone else that’s not a democrat to convince certain people of the corruption. Unless the DNC through the MSM tells them it exists, it doesn’t in their minds.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 7:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:17 pm to
You have a lot of dots to connect, with credible evidence along each connection, in order to make this work. Until you show your work, I don't see it (and nobody else should either).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:18 pm to
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There’s no amount of evidence that can be presented by the Trump administration or anyone else that’s not a democrat to convince certain people of the corruption.


Which corruption, is the issue.

This Somali stuff clearly has legs, and the Biden DOJ did work in getting the ball rolling. Trump's DOJ looks to be following their lead.

But turning "people scamming federal dollars" into "The Deep State" is quite the leap without much solid framing.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:19 pm to
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I see your formatting error


For the self-proclaimed "smartest guy here," it's mind-boggling how seldom you even give a straight answer to a question.

You must've been one hell of a dodge ball player as a tyke in elementary school. All you do here is DIDGE. You'd think the smartest man in the Western Hemisphere could actually handle questions much netter than that.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 7:33 pm
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:21 pm to
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But turning "people scamming federal dollars" into "The Deep State" is quite the leap without much solid framing.


It’s fairly obvious listening to these people speak that they don’t possess the intelligence to facilitate this level of fraud on their own.

Whether or not they were helped by individuals inside of government can be debated I guess, but Tim Walz trotting out there to call anyone asking about it a racist is pretty telling imo.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:21 pm to
H/T Vacherie Saint

It’s a fallacy loop.
Create a system that makes fraud unbelievably easy.
Rig that system in a way that makes proving that fraud nearly impossible,
When rational observers point out impossible inconsistencies, dare them to “prove it”.
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:22 pm to
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Unless the DNC through the MSM tells them it exists, it doesn’t in their minds.


And neither entity will ever do that, because they're part of the corrupt Political Establishment.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:23 pm to
We might get a Republicans did this actually but that’s about the extent of what their acknowledgement will be I agree
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
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It’s fairly obvious listening to these people speak that they don’t possess the intelligence to facilitate this level of fraud on their own.


It's not that difficult of a grift, conceptually.

But yes, the scheme already prosecuted was run by a white lady. No need for "Deep State" ties there.

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but Tim Walz trotting out there to call anyone asking about it a racist is pretty telling imo.

Not of a larger conspiracy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:25 pm to
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Create a system that makes fraud unbelievably easy.
Rig that system in a way that makes proving that fraud nearly impossible,


This doesn't exist in these scams du jour. The fraud is pretty easy to prove, which is why the Biden DOJ did so much work in the area proving the fraud.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:25 pm to
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And neither entity will ever do that, because they're part of the corrupt Political Establishment.


Want me to find articles from the MSM reporting the 2022 prosecutions by Biden's DOJ to disprove this statement? Or will you just admit it without me having to do the work?
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
864 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:30 pm to
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It's not that difficult of a grift, conceptually.


For you or me. These people can’t spell learning correctly and are functionally retarded.

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Not of a larger conspiracy


He has no reason to deny the fraud. There’s already been prosecutions.

Unless he and others are involved which it appears he is based on campaign donations at a minimum.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:32 pm to
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It’s fairly obvious listening to these people speak that they don’t possess the intelligence to facilitate this level of fraud on their own.


Apparently, SFP thinks that a group of people with an average IQ of 68 pulled this off without any help.

I wonder what sfp's explanation is for the political assassination of Melissa Hortman, the Democrat from Minnesota who was murdered? The only Democrat who bucked the Democrat stance and voted against an extension of aid for illegals?

That's assuming he even knows who she was?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:32 pm to
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Which corruption, is the issue.
Slow

What reason does our government have to intake as much money as they do from us and decide how it’s spent without oversight?

And why aren’t you even halfway curious about it?

Why can’t I go look at every dollar spent on these types of things? It’s fricking 2025.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 7:34 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:34 pm to
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He has no reason to deny the fraud.


In terms of politics/optics, there are plenty of reasons to downplay certain claims, like the hyper-focusing on Somalis. You get all sorts of Leftist angles, from ICE/deportations to racism to Ilhan Omar to simply countering the online MAGA content echo chamber. All of these things would play to their base.

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89070 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:35 pm to
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Apparently, SFP thinks that a group of people with an average IQ of 68 pulled this off without any help.
No he doesn’t.

He’s in favor of it. And if you can’t literally prove in right now, he doesn’t think you’re worthy of being upset about it.


He has all but admitted he wants bad things to happen to a person who is MAGA. He hates us.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298076 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:36 pm to
I'm sure there was fraud, how much is the question and its unknown.

I'm not going to jump to conclusions based on that video.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
864 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:36 pm to
He’s not downplaying. He’s outright denying fraud exists.

Why would he do this if he knows prosecutions have already occurred? Is he unaware?
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