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The filibuster is unconstitutional

Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:16 pm
It deprives the president of the veto power.

Oh and John Thune is a human Ken Doll, down to the genitalia.

That is all.

ETA that’s not all. If we didn’t have a Barbie Doll for AG, we could have Trump unilaterally open the government on bases on the HR continuing resolution and make the Democrats sue him for spending the money and then tell them to frick off, the filibuster is unconstitutional and the courts just ruled that Trump has to magically find the money that they didn’t allocate - so have at it.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Boston911
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:19 pm to
Please explain how the filibuster deprives a president of his veto
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:23 pm to
Because the veto was designed to be the check on Congress, not the freaking made up filibuster rule.

The filibuster rule is unconstitutional. It requires that legislation pass by majority except for a few specific items (example, impeachments).

If the President doesn’t like the legislation that the majority passes, he can veto it and then Congress can override his veto. If the majority passes it, and the president was elected so that it would get passed (the situation we’re in now), well then obviously he doesn’t.

It deprives the president of that prerogative, and restricts constituents of their right to be represented
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:23 pm to
And also how the chambers are not free to set their own internal rules.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16925 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:24 pm to
They are, within the bounds of the constitution.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:27 pm to
So let's just sit on our asses and wait for Democrats to get in power to remove the filler buster - This way it makes Republicans look great while destroying our country at the same time. Genius!!

You people need to fricking learn how to fight EVIL because right now you Panicans are sounding like a bunch of fricking pussies
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16925 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:30 pm to
What the hell are you talking about?!! I’m not being a panican. I think that Human Nutless Ken Doll should get his majority to change the rules and nuke the filibuster- but he won’t bc he’s too stupid to see that his unwillingness to do so is actually hurting republicans.

Because he won’t - I think Trump should just say - frick it, I’m just gonna start paying people. Go ahead and sue me for it
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

The term "filibuster" ultimately derives from the Dutch vrijbuiter ("freebooter", a pillaging and plundering adventurer), but the precise history of the word's borrowing into English is obscure. The Oxford English Dictionary finds its only known use in early modern English in a 1587 book describing "flibutors" who robbed supply convoys. In the late 18th century, the term was re-borrowed into English from its French form flibustier, a form that was used until the mid-19th century.

The modern English form "filibuster" was borrowed in the early 1850s from the Spanish filibustero (lawless plunderer). term was applied to adventurers like William Walker who were engaging in private military expeditions in Latin America. Over the course of the mid to late 19th century, the term "filibustering" became common in American English in the sense of "obstructing progress in a legislative assembly"
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:33 pm to
Thune has nothing to do with it.. It's because of John Kennedy. He is the one raising hell about it. You probably didn't notice because everything he says is methodically supposed to be funny like he is a comedian.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9192 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:36 pm to
Constitutional Basis

Article I, Section 5 of the U.S. Constitution states: “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings.”

This clause gives the Senate broad discretion to establish procedural rules, including the filibuster.

The filibuster is a product of Senate rules, not constitutional text or intent.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:36 pm to
The left has perverted the filibuster, just like everything else they touch.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:40 pm to
DJT wants it gone. Why is he facing pushback from the GOP?
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:41 pm to
I hope this is a temper tantrum and not real analysis
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9175 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

DJT wants it gone. Why is he facing pushback from the GOP?



The filibuster has always been coverage for Republicans In Name Only. It’s been sold as a mechanism to help the minority. Truth is, conservatives have always been the minority and the filibuster runs coverage for the uniparty majority. Up is down.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16925 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:46 pm to
They only have the power to override a veto, not create one. Basically the filibuster provides 1 senators with a veto power. It’s not their prerogative.

They increase the number required to pass legislation anymore than they can decrease it. They can pass whatever rules they want, but those rules have to comply with the constitution. The senate doesn’t have the authority to change the number that would permit the passage of legislation
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16925 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:52 pm to
Where’s the SCOTUS opinion saying I’m wrong?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84155 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:53 pm to
And so how is a filibuster not an internal rule regarding that chamber’s deliberative process?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16925 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:08 pm to
It’s a vote requirement that is unconstitutional - it violates the presentment clause:

quote:

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.


The Senate Voted 12 times to open the government with 53 votes. They are required to by the constitution to present it to the President, who has the prerogative (ie the power), to veto it.

There’s no filibuster exception to the presentment clause
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:14 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84155 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:14 pm to
Do you say the same thing about the committee setup and a bill having to be voted out of committee to see the floor?

That’s an arbitrary barrier to the president getting to veto it.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161518 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:21 pm to
ken doll including genitalia AG barbie doll

quote:

Democrats sue him for spending the money and then tell them to frick off, the filibuster is unconstitutional and the courts just ruled that Trump has to magically find the money that they didn’t allocate - so have at it.
this is infuriating. Roberts court won't let POTUS know about the tariff money he spent feeding the perpetual food stamp people- is okay according to them until 2026! he will have to rename it not a tariff maybe.

the democrats are tee total complete POS. Trump should order Blondi to order Kash to raid CAIR and the DSA-- as they are unlawful terrorists. they can go play in the sand at home with their sharia law.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:23 pm
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