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Are the right seeking a conservative Götterdämmerung?

Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:33 pm
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:33 pm
Or, will they figure out what they need to do to win?

It seems a lot of the populist right seem ok with the idea of losing but sticking to some populist ideals that are not going to win over most of the moderate majority and those who are "independent."

Winning should be the only goal. Anything other than that should be pushed aside. We should not be trying to Immanentize the conservative eschaton.

We need to find a way, quickly, to counter the marxist machine or we'll all face the bloody reality of a communist future alone. Policy and candidates need to be generated that can win. Enough with the echo-chamber thinking. Winning should be the only goal.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:34 pm to
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Policy and candidates need to be generated that can win.


Tell us what that is.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20547 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:37 pm to
The right currently hold the Oval Office, Congress, and the USSC.

Is there a 4th branch you'd like to offer advice on how to win?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:42 pm to
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Götterdämmerung
1 extra point for includng umlauts
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:43 pm to
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Winning should be the only goal. 


Right.

As opposed to serving the people and such.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:48 pm to
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Immanentize the conservative eschaton.

I think you’re just making words up now. Next you're gonna tell us not to narfle the Garthok.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 1:18 am
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:50 pm to
How do you plan to serve the people out of power?
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:50 pm to
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I think your just making words up now. Next you're gonna tell us not to narfle the Garthok.


That's just the kind of thing I'd expect a lumpenproletariat to say.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2086 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:51 pm to
All of these can be reversed in 4 years or less
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:51 pm to
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Götterdämmerung




Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20547 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:51 pm to
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All of these can be reversed in 4 years or less


Again. We are already winning. Your premise is that we need to change course. Explain.
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:52 pm to
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How do you plan to serve the people out of power?


Maybe if you served the people you wouldn't be out of power
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 11:53 pm
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:53 pm to
Because we are not winning. We won a single battle about a year ago. I'm talking about winning the war.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:54 pm to
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That's just the kind of thing I'd expect a lumpenproletariat to say.

I'm not joining the revolution. Might as well be the Army of the Dead.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20547 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:54 pm to
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We won a single battle about a year ago


This is simply incorrect. The USSC majority has been building over a decade now. And we've scored some major wins there. We've lost some too, mostly thanks to the "winning" GWB appointed John Roberts.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2086 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:55 pm to
Or maybe, in a land called reality, you can lose while thinking you are taking the higher road all while getting your arse kicked in elections. We have about a year to get our shite together before the next election.
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:55 pm to
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while getting your arse kicked in elections. 


So like tonight you mean?
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2086 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:57 pm to
There was a time not too long ago the left felt the same way about the SCOTUS. Relying on one barrier is not winning.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:07 am to
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2086 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:08 am to
It's going to take a lot more than shitty memes.
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