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Dumb senate procedural question. Why not simply bypass the 60 vote majority rule?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:53 pm
The federal budget can be passed without a 60-vote majority in the Senate through a process called budget reconciliation. Why are they waiting? The D’s would have already made the move if it was in their favor.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:57 pm to Luke
From Grok:
No, the Senate cannot pass a continuing resolution (CR) using reconciliation. Reconciliation is a special legislative process under the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, designed to expedite consideration of budget-related legislation. It allows certain bills to pass with a simple majority (51 votes) instead of the usual 60-vote threshold to overcome a filibuster. However, reconciliation is limited to legislation that directly affects the federal budget, such as changes to revenues, spending, or the debt limit, and it must comply with strict rules, including the Byrd Rule, which prohibits provisions that are extraneous or do not have a direct budgetary impact.
A continuing resolution, which temporarily funds the government to prevent a shutdown when appropriations bills are not passed by the start of the fiscal year, is primarily a temporary funding measure. While it involves federal spending, it is not considered a substantive change to budget policy in the way reconciliation requires. Instead, CRs are typically passed through the regular legislative process, requiring either 60 votes to avoid a filibuster or unanimous consent in the Senate.
Additionally, reconciliation is initiated through a budget resolution, which sets the framework for reconciliation bills and must be passed by both chambers. This process is not typically used for short-term funding measures like CRs, which are more procedural and time-sensitive. Attempting to use reconciliation for a CR would likely face procedural challenges, including potential violations of the Byrd Rule, as it may not meet the criteria for reconciliation-eligible legislation.
Therefore, the Senate would need to rely on the standard legislative process, requiring broader bipartisan support, to pass a continuing resolution.
No, the Senate cannot pass a continuing resolution (CR) using reconciliation. Reconciliation is a special legislative process under the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, designed to expedite consideration of budget-related legislation. It allows certain bills to pass with a simple majority (51 votes) instead of the usual 60-vote threshold to overcome a filibuster. However, reconciliation is limited to legislation that directly affects the federal budget, such as changes to revenues, spending, or the debt limit, and it must comply with strict rules, including the Byrd Rule, which prohibits provisions that are extraneous or do not have a direct budgetary impact.
A continuing resolution, which temporarily funds the government to prevent a shutdown when appropriations bills are not passed by the start of the fiscal year, is primarily a temporary funding measure. While it involves federal spending, it is not considered a substantive change to budget policy in the way reconciliation requires. Instead, CRs are typically passed through the regular legislative process, requiring either 60 votes to avoid a filibuster or unanimous consent in the Senate.
Additionally, reconciliation is initiated through a budget resolution, which sets the framework for reconciliation bills and must be passed by both chambers. This process is not typically used for short-term funding measures like CRs, which are more procedural and time-sensitive. Attempting to use reconciliation for a CR would likely face procedural challenges, including potential violations of the Byrd Rule, as it may not meet the criteria for reconciliation-eligible legislation.
Therefore, the Senate would need to rely on the standard legislative process, requiring broader bipartisan support, to pass a continuing resolution.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:01 pm to Luke
Democrats said they are afraid to pass any opening of the Federal Government before the No Kings Protest.
No, I'm not making that up. That's how much control AOC has over the entire DNC right now and that fraction of the DNC is the smallest.
No, I'm not making that up. That's how much control AOC has over the entire DNC right now and that fraction of the DNC is the smallest.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:04 pm to IMATIGERFAN
While the nuke option has been used to advance judicial and executive nominees, no party in the majority would use this option for budgetary reasons because when the majority swaps, the tables are turned and the filibuster is no longer a tactic to protege minority party & force bipartisan measures
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:16 pm to IMATIGERFAN
My understanding, simply, is that reconciliation is s change to the budget, whereas a CR is an extension of a budget, and a new budget is a new budget.
To change those rules probably takes 60 votes.
To change those rules probably takes 60 votes.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
Actually went back and read the civ pro on this and the R’s can actually do this, but if kills the filibuster in essence moving forward. Appears they would rather blame D’s and are afraid to drop a pair to muscle this through due to fright of what might happen in the future
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