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Wheel strategy
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:12 am
Are any of you using the wheel strategy? I keep looking for a stock to start with but I haven't found one yet.
Also considering using long calls to hedge against the puts instead of owning stock. Any thoughts?
Also considering using long calls to hedge against the puts instead of owning stock. Any thoughts?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 11:10 am to bobaftt1212
Not exactly the wheel strategy but:
XSP, I sell dailies on it but it always settles for cash whether you "win" or lose
It also has preferred tax treatment being taxed 60% LTCG and only 40% STCG
It's a solid $20-$30/day pretty conservatively per contract, but i actively wait for chances there each day. This is day trades that settle later that day. If you wanted to buy a day ahead, you could make a lot more, but lose a lot more as well.
You could do $40ish a day if you got more aggressive but would lose a little more
XSP, I sell dailies on it but it always settles for cash whether you "win" or lose
It also has preferred tax treatment being taxed 60% LTCG and only 40% STCG
It's a solid $20-$30/day pretty conservatively per contract, but i actively wait for chances there each day. This is day trades that settle later that day. If you wanted to buy a day ahead, you could make a lot more, but lose a lot more as well.
You could do $40ish a day if you got more aggressive but would lose a little more
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 11:20 am to thunderbird1100
Soooo.....free money?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 11:27 am to TDFreak
I've only been on the losing side of these 4 times this year through 112 contracts (1 was a super loser (-$300+), thanks trump, liberation day timing); $2,742 total earnings including the ones that lost for
$24.48 per trade for me
These will all cash secured, so yo uneed just under $70k to do this for 1 contract since the price is $665 right now
I've been double dipping with earning HYSA interest on that cash on top of the option premium i make every day
On robinhood I've been getting 4% all year on my cash, i initiate the trade at some point in the day and it settles at 4-4:30 EST with cash back into my account to get the interest each day
This is just our cash/supercharged savings acct basically. Between the 4% interest and my option premiums it has an annual return closer to 12-14% range, ive missed a number of trading days.
$24.48 per trade for me
These will all cash secured, so yo uneed just under $70k to do this for 1 contract since the price is $665 right now
I've been double dipping with earning HYSA interest on that cash on top of the option premium i make every day
On robinhood I've been getting 4% all year on my cash, i initiate the trade at some point in the day and it settles at 4-4:30 EST with cash back into my account to get the interest each day
This is just our cash/supercharged savings acct basically. Between the 4% interest and my option premiums it has an annual return closer to 12-14% range, ive missed a number of trading days.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 3:49 pm to thunderbird1100
are you selling daily calls? Just out of curiosity what did your trade look like today?
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