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Which returning CORE would you prefer to build around?

Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:15 am
(See second post for Team B)

Returning players from TEAM A

6 Skill potential starters

QB1 : 5th year senior; 2nd year starter; 5700 career yards; in 2024, 4000+ yards 29 TDs, 12 INTs in the SEC

RB1 : 5-9 210lbs True sophomore, 10.3 100 m speedster
753 yards, 5.4 per, car. 6TDs
260 yards receiving. 9.5 per rec. 2TDs

RB2 : 6ft 230 lbs. JR powerback, proven truck stick capabilities and top end speed.

WR 1: Junior, 60 Rec almost 900 yds; 14.5 yard average; 5 TDS and a 100 Kickoff return for a TD
Against an SEC schedule

WR 2 : Elite speed averaging 20+ yards per reception. 3 TDs in 2 games to close out 2024; battle through injuries.

TE1: True Sophomore Freak athlete; 6’7 245 lbs; 4.6-4.7 40 time; In his first season; 13 Rec and 5 TDs

—— 5 OLINE potential starters ——

IOL 4 star; 93.48 rated out of Highschool, 1 year starter - 6-5 335lbs Big Bodied mauler! Struggled at center, but high upside sliding to guard.

OT 4 star, Rated 92.17; 6’7 310lbs. As a redshirt sophomore, he didn’t allow a sack in 82 pass blocking opportunities … Saw action at 4 positions on the offensive line (77 at LT, 38 at LG, 27 at RG, 2 at RT).

IOL 6-5 315; Redshirt Sophmore; Has 5 starts;
(Allowed 2 sacks on 275 pass blocking opportunities)

OT 4-5star; 95.25 rating; 6-6 320; True Sophomore; 6th ranked OT nationally coming out of Highschool.

OL 6-3, 317 ; 4??. Appeared in 5 games as a true freshman. and out of high school as the No. 40 overall prospect in Texas … Ranked No. 15 at his position nationally in the On3 composite …
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 10:20 am
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:16 am to
Returning players from
TEAM B

Skill
QB1 : 6’ 195 lbs; as a true freshman started 8 Games in the SEC; Passed for 1,880 yards and 11 TDs and added 5 rushing touchdowns (8 games). {Had 8 TD passes over a 3-game span in games against Georgia (3), Texas A&M (3) and Arkansas (2) in 2024 as a true freshman}

RB1 : consensus 5star; #1 RB in the nation coming out of Highschool. 5’10 190lbs; Smooth and fast; receiver (HS stats : Finished career with 8,571 rushing yards and 142 touchdowns … Added 52 receptions for 888 yards and 12 scores) Finished second in the Louisiana state outdoor track meet in the 200-meters in both 2023 (21.43) and 2024 (21.80)

WR1 : Senior 5’11, 180; Multiple all SEC honors; 3,273 all-purpose yards – 1,528 receiving, SEC teams record-holder for kickoff returns for a TD in a career (5) and in a season (3 in 2023)
As a true freshman, as a result Averaged 12.6 yards per catch and tallied 4 TD receptions …

WR2 : 6-4, 210lbs. ; explosive, has the record for TD receptions by a freshman with 10 in 2023 for an SEC team… Averaged 21.0 yards a catch in the SEC

TE : 6-5 250lb; 5th year senior, led led his SEC team in receiving in 2024; 22 career starts and 82 career receptions for 690 yards and 6 TDs

TE : 6’4 250lbs; Redshirt Junior; coming off an in 2024; as a true freshman Played in 10 games with 4 starts… Caught 22 passes for 233 yards and 2 TDs …

C : 6-2 300 24 starts in 3 seasons at guard and center; 1,422 career offensive snaps;
2024; Played a total of 754 snaps with a season-high allowed only 3 sacks all season.

IOL 6-5 300lbs. Blue chip prospect, 24 career starts including 11 in 2024. 1,429 career offensive snaps, (731 at tackle and 657 at guard) not allow a sack over the final 18 games

4star; Rated 96.13; 6-4 320 entering True Freshman season; 2nd ranked IOL nationally: Top 50 overall player

OT 5star; 6’4. 325 lbs true freshman; the No. 2 interior offensive line prospect and No. 32 overall nationally in the On3 composite … Ranked as the No. 1 overall high school talent in the state of Florida for the Class of 2025

OT 6-8 335. Redshirt freshman; long and athletic; Played only 2 seasons of high school football, quickly developing into one of the nation’s top offensive tackle prospects for the Class of 2024 … Standout basketball player in high school
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 10:25 am
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:18 am to
Don’t think too hard on it because you don’t have to choose!

Both cores come together to form the 2025 LSU roster !!

The transfer class on its own would form a strong returning core, but LSU is adding that to an already stacked group!!
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13238 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:40 am to
This is fricking stupid because it’s 2025 and you dumbasses on TD still think seasons are decided by names on the roster and the stereotypes you’ve laid on them


These days it’s all about schemes and execution. But yall treat real life college football like it’s Xbox and the only thing that matters is ratings
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:54 am to
What the hell are you talking about ???

Your entire point is that it’s a new season??

It’s always been about scheme and execution.

If the names and specifics don’t matter. Why enter the transfer portal and spend NIL money? The point is that our transfer class is productive and experienced and would be sufficient to form a core on its own!!

However, it will be combined with an already talented core!!

This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 10:56 am
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:56 am to
What does it even mean to “lay a stereotype on a player”?

Do you mean measurables and production doesn’t matter?
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16426 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Do you mean measurables and production doesn’t matter?

Sure it matters. But there are probably a lot of teams that you could list out their measurables and stats and it would look impressive.
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:11 am to
Name one?
Name a team whose offensive AND defensive transfer class is better than LSU?

There are few teams
whose transfer class additions could form a returning core that would rival LSU’s and few teams that have the returning production that LSU has.

I simply started a post highlighting that these two legit cores are combining.

Why is this hard to grasp?
________________
TEAM A
6 Skill
G. Nussmeier
C. Durham
K Jackson
A. Anderson
C. Hilton
T. Green

—— 5 OLINE ——
DJ Chester
T. Adams
P. Mubanga
W. Davis
C. Echols


Returning players from
TEAM B

Skill
Michael Van Burean
Harlem Berry
Barion Brown
Nic Anderson
Bauer Sharp
Donavan Green

OLine
Braelin Moore
Josh Thompson
C. Curne
Solomon Thomas
Ory Williams

This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 11:13 am
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13238 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:28 am to
Dude you could play the ‘look at our measurable and combine numbers’ with any of the top teams in the SEC. You think LSU is the only roster that’s full of HS superstars and guys who are big, strong, and fast??

Fans for the most part lack any sort of perspective about any other team except for THEIR team. This thread and your responses are a perfect example of that.


YES we have studs. Yes we have physical freaks of nature with lots of potential

But so does everyone else. These days it’s all about schemes and execution. That was my only point.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16426 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Name one?

You want me to go and list all of the accomplishments for another team’s first and second string players dating back to high school? No thanks. Every team in the SEC has a “speedster” WR, “power back” RB, and “big bodied mauler” offensive lineman
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
7541 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:44 am to
quote:

These days it’s all about schemes and execution

You think Ohio State won the championship last year based solely on schemes and execution and not having tremendous talent?
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:45 am to
No jackass…

I want you to compare the transfer class production COUPLED with the returning production

Or quit offering a poorly informed opinion as if you know ??
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16426 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:48 am to
quote:

I want you to compare the transfer class production COUPLED with the returning production

No
quote:

Or quit offering a poorly informed opinion as if you know ??

What statement of mine are you referring to?
Posted by BBQ
Member since Oct 2018
185 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:03 pm to
Why all the aggression? Dude was just trying to come up with an offseason thread that gave us a different way to see/understand the depth that LSU has built through recruiting wins in High School and the portal. And you're right every team has athletes, and all fan bases feel very optimistic right now. But the stats are interesting and it took some work to put it together. Thanks kicks for an interesting take. For those of you that don't find it interesting, why not just move along instead of going in the hot with the very first reply.? Just my O2
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

What statement of mine are you referring to?


If you aren’t willing to do the work to find out how common or uncommon the talent acquisition was across the offense and defense actually was then HOW DO YOU KNOW my claim is false?

If you don’t know my claim is false, then your opinion is by definition uninformed. Or at best poorly informed.

LSU had the #1 portal class.
Some (possibly foolish people even) could conclude that the talent influx is better than most. ??
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16426 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

If you aren’t willing to do the work to find out how common or uncommon the talent acquisition was across the offense and defense actually was then HOW DO YOU KNOW my claim is false?

If you don’t know my claim is false, then your opinion is by definition uninformed. Or at best poorly informed.


I'm not sure what you are getting at. I'm not saying that LSU has a bad roster or that they didn't do great in the portal. All I'm saying is that if you go through the 2 deep and pick out the best possible stats/narratives for each player on a team, you can probably make it look pretty impressive. That's literally all I said.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:17 pm to
BBQ

Thank you! Someone that thinks about the content first. :).
______
I actually should have started with the defense (I figured the stats translated better, offensively)

LSU could legitimately field 2 starting rosters with the transfer portal additions.
(This is different than simply saying we added 25 Highschool kids with talent)
Proven dudes, that have actually done it in the SEC / BIG 10 / ACC !!

2 DTs
2 DEs
0 linebackers (only exception)
3 CBs
2 Safeties
Almost all of which were starters, will be starters (situational plug and play guys) in 2025 !!



Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:21 pm to
That’s literally not all you said.

You said much more prior to back tracking.

But this shows you missed the point.
Teams like Georgia and Ohio state probably do have some deep rosters.

But they don’t have the influx of experienced starters (they are backfilling with young guys albeit potentially 5 star young guys).

No team with the returning production that LSU has at key positions; brought in as many experienced transfers and high impact freshman like the #1 RB and #1CB like LSU did.

None.
If you disagree,
Which team so we can evaluate?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16426 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

That’s literally not all you said.


Literally my first post in this thread:
quote:

Sure it matters. But there are probably a lot of teams that you could list out their measurables and stats and it would look impressive.

quote:

No team with the returning production that LSU has at key positions; brought in as many experienced transfers and high impact freshman like the #1 RB and #1CB like LSU did.

Clemson is returning like 85% of their production. That's arguably more valuable that overhauling half of your roster with portal guys.
Posted by Kicks30
Lake Charles, La
Member since Sep 2019
144 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:39 pm to
Is this post about returning production?

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