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Markets Plunges, Dogs and Cats start living together!

Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by Big Wes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
85 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:23 am
Despite all the ranting of the learned Economists and paid concern trolls on this board. Maybe this Administration knows what they are doing.

The system, as it was, was broken. Our government is captured by the Bureaucratic State, taxing us to further capture us. Our trade policies are captured by our foreign adversaries and International Corporations.

The only benefit the moderately wealthy person received was a nice big number in their 401k. So take your 401k hit now. Lower long term rates now. Now you can refinance the huge debt load that Mushroom Head, Janet Yellen, held in 2 year notes when long term rates for 2%.

It had to change or it ultimately would have further gutted of our national wealth. The goal is to decouple the U.S. from the globalists. Financially and Morally. Liberation Day.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23920 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:29 am to
Well, bless your heart, Wes, you really think this clown show knows what’s up? Markets are tankin’ faster than a drunk on a barstool, and you’re over here yapping about ‘liberation.’ Wake up, dipshit they ain’t fixin’ squat. Tariffs don’t magically make shite cheap; they screw manufacturers who still need parts from overseas. China’s got $3 trillion in the bank laughin’ at this mess while our costs go through the roof.
That 401k ‘hit’ you’re brushin’ off? That’s real cash, not your fantasy reset button. S&P’s already down 5% today billions gone ‘cause these morons can’t spell ‘trade policy.’ And them ‘lower rates’? Yields are climbin’, genius, ‘cause everybody’s freakin’ out, not ‘cause of some master plan. You’re cheerin’ a dumpster fire and callin’ it progress. Stick to somethin’ you’re good at, like sittin’ quiet. economics ain’t it for you, hoss.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:30 am to
I don't remember Trump running on market turmoil and possible recession in order to MAGA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467375 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:30 am to
quote:

I don't remember Trump running on market turmoil and possible recession in order to MAGA.

Yeah can someone link this from Agenda47?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85335 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:31 am to
quote:

China’s got $3 trillion in the bank laughin’ at this mess while our costs go through the roof.


quote:

That 401k ‘hit’ you’re brushin’ off? That’s real cash


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297825 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:32 am to
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It had to change or it ultimately would have further gutting of our national wealth.


This is fricking hilarious..

Who the frick is telling y'all these lies?
Posted by Big Wes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
85 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:33 am to
Well gooolly, Burt. America is not the stock market. And money in the stock market ain't' cash. But you know that. The financialization of our economy to serve the Wall Street Gods was gong to end.

Go listen to what Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant actually says. Find his interviews from 2 years ago. It ain't rocket science to end the grift.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297825 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:34 am to
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I don't remember Trump running on market turmoil and possible recession in order to MAGA.


Its a new narritive they developed this week.

"Gotta feel pain before gain."


When they see the tariffs are problematic, they shift toward a larger, distant goal.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297825 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:34 am to
quote:

America is not the stock market.


You'll amend this somewhat if stocks keep falling and layoffs start coming.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170785 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:34 am to
quote:

That 401k ‘hit’ you’re brushin’ off? That’s real cash, not your fantasy reset button.

If you're dumb enough to panic sell from your 401K after short term losses you deserve whatever you get. You don't lose if you don't sell.

In fact I would be buying if I were you. I just deployed my 2025 IRA contributions into the market. Did I catch the bottom? Not likely. But the dip from the last month probably provides some decent value long term.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:35 am to
I can't decide whether to laugh at this or be scared shiteless.
Posted by Big Wes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
85 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:36 am to
Bunk Moreland
SlowFlowPro
RogerTheShrubber

Wow, I got all three on the first page, must have struck a nerve.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23920 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:40 am to
Wow, Powerman, way to flex those IRA crumbs like you’re some market genius. ‘Don’t sell, you don’t lose’ brilliant, did you read that on a cereal box? Except the S&P’s down 5% today $1.2 trillion in market cap torched because Trump’s tariff tantrum has everyone dumping stock. You’re out here ‘buying the dip’ while imports are about to cost 20% more, jacking up inflation and choking supply chains. China’s got $3.3 trillion in reserves to weather this; our manufacturers don’t. Good luck with that long-term value when the CPI spikes and the Fed hikes rates to compensate. This isn’t just a ‘short-term dip,’ jackass it’s a policy trainwreck. Decades of data show tariffs shrink GDP look at Smoot-Hawley, 1930, trade dropped 66%, markets crashed 80%. But sure, toss your 2025 lunch money in and pray it’s different this time. Let me know how that genius plan pans out when the recession hits.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297825 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:40 am to
Hopium.

Donny knows his loyalist will believe anything he says.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85335 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:41 am to
Book marked this baby!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297825 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:43 am to
quote:


If you're dumb enough to panic sell from your 401K after short term losses you deserve whatever you get. You don't lose if you don't sell



I dont have a choice with one of mine I am withdrawing for land/Cabin.

Had to wait 60 days after leaving the company to get it, which is today. The value has dropped and there is no time to recoup.

Posted by Big Wes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
85 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:46 am to
Market looked real sustainable. Here is a charge that shows the running 12 year average return per market valuation. Bottom right......

Posted by Big Wes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
85 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:48 am to
RogerTheShrubber.. I am sorry that happened but you could have moved those funds out of stocks and into a treasury fund if you knew you were going to need them. The hardest part is leaving the casino when you are up.
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