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Crazy how much the game has changed

Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:20 pm
Posted by BakoTiger2255
Member since Aug 2023
314 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:20 pm
6’8 pitcher throwing mid 90’s getting lit up. Everyone can hit the FB now.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19554 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:22 pm to
Radar guns have changed. Radar guns from 15 years ago say he’s probably being clocked 91-93
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
2224 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:23 pm to
His fastball is flat and easy to pick up off his arm sometimes right now. Off speed isn’t consistent so hitters can sit on FB.
Posted by BANDE
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2017
812 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:23 pm to
Don’t matter how fast you throw it when you can’t locate for shite. The dude is not a starter at the moment.
Posted by BakoTiger2255
Member since Aug 2023
314 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:24 pm to
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Radar guns have changed. Radar guns from 15 years ago say he’s probably being clocked 91-93


I don’t know about that. The access to high quality strength training and biomechanics analysis has definitely led to an increase in pitching velocity
This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 10:25 pm
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19554 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:27 pm to
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I don’t know about that


I do!
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19722 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:29 pm to
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I don’t know about that.


It’s true. Nolan Ryan threw 94-98, Clemens 93-96, Pedro up to 97-98.

I remember at one time only a small handful of lefties in the big leagues threw over 95. Now every team had 4 or 5. The guns are different today.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19722 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:30 pm to
And don’t forget the dumbass sissy base at first.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
9148 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:35 pm to
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Radar guns have changed. Radar guns from 15 years ago say he’s probably being clocked 91-93

This narrative is so stupid. The radar guns have resulted in a 2 mph difference MAX. Shores is not throwing 91 mph.

Velocity is more of a premium now than ever. Guys train for velocity first. They are throwing harder than ever before, by a pretty large margin.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19554 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:36 pm to
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The radar guns have resulted in a 2 mph difference MAX


Nah, more than that. 3-6 MPHs
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
13509 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:42 pm to
So since the radar guns aren’t accurate at all today apparently then i guess Skenes actually wasn’t/isnt throwing 102 mph heat but instead 96-98?
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
9148 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Nah, more than that. 3-6 MPHs

No. That discrepancy only exists in guns from the 70s and 80s.

The guns from 20+ years ago read about 1-2 mph slower, at most. There is extensive research on this. Chapman's 105.1, 15 years ago, would read 105.8 today.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
9148 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:43 pm to
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So since the radar guns aren’t accurate at all today apparently then i guess Skenes actually wasn’t/isnt throwing 102 mph heat but instead 96-98?

No. The guns are more accurate than ever today. The old guns were off a couple mph.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67628 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:19 pm to
New guns measure top speed, old guns measure speed of the ball when it crossed the plate.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19554 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:32 pm to
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Madking


Yessir you are correct
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67628 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:34 pm to
First time for everything
Posted by Tegre
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Jan 2008
1226 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:35 pm to
Sissy first base is great IMO. Makes it a little easier to call and much safer
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54175 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:36 pm to
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Everyone can hit the FB now.


A lot of those guys would have signed with the minors back in the day
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