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Video over LAN for home use
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:07 pm
Does anyone use AV over IP for home use?
Main reason:
I have 2 main gathering/viewing areas that are very near each other. A fairly “open” living room + a kitchen/keeping area behind it. The TVs are rotated 90 degrees from each other (so if you were to have the TV on at the table, you could see both fairly easily. No, we don’t watch TV at the table, but for gatherings while cooking, it’s common to have them both on and people scattered through both areas, particularly on college football saturdays and NFL sundays)
Currently, I have 2 Apple TVs. They’re the same generation. They’re both connected via Ethernet. They still get off a few seconds from each other with streaming for one reason or another.
I do not currently have but sort of want to add an outdoor TV for occasional use, and I’d like to keep the video and audio more sync’d up than live streaming will allow if the following does what I suspect:
jTech seems reputable, and $100 per receiver seems reasonable (though 4k offerings seem out of reach- I don’t think they have them, but most look to be $1000 for the encoder and $250 for the decoder when I do see them, and I’m not THAT impressed or in need of the setup).
I already have switches that support VLAN and Ethernet available where I’d want to sync TVs (and easy to add another if desired)
Does anyone use anything like this or have any personal experience with anything in this realm? I’m specifically looking for ones that support tx over TCP/IP, not point-to-point Ethernet extension (I retrofitted my house and have single cables to room that are needed for other things, and I’m not going double my cabling everywhere at this point)
Main reason:
I have 2 main gathering/viewing areas that are very near each other. A fairly “open” living room + a kitchen/keeping area behind it. The TVs are rotated 90 degrees from each other (so if you were to have the TV on at the table, you could see both fairly easily. No, we don’t watch TV at the table, but for gatherings while cooking, it’s common to have them both on and people scattered through both areas, particularly on college football saturdays and NFL sundays)
Currently, I have 2 Apple TVs. They’re the same generation. They’re both connected via Ethernet. They still get off a few seconds from each other with streaming for one reason or another.
I do not currently have but sort of want to add an outdoor TV for occasional use, and I’d like to keep the video and audio more sync’d up than live streaming will allow if the following does what I suspect:
jTech seems reputable, and $100 per receiver seems reasonable (though 4k offerings seem out of reach- I don’t think they have them, but most look to be $1000 for the encoder and $250 for the decoder when I do see them, and I’m not THAT impressed or in need of the setup).
I already have switches that support VLAN and Ethernet available where I’d want to sync TVs (and easy to add another if desired)
Does anyone use anything like this or have any personal experience with anything in this realm? I’m specifically looking for ones that support tx over TCP/IP, not point-to-point Ethernet extension (I retrofitted my house and have single cables to room that are needed for other things, and I’m not going double my cabling everywhere at this point)
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:11 pm to Hopeful Doc
Biggest annoyance with this is making sure you get over IP and not over LAN.
Some will say "over IP" but it can't be routed through a switch on a dedicated vlan, it essentially has to be transmitter, straight copper, receiver, which is "over LAN". Edit: Read the rest of your post and see you covered this
You can get some good deals on eBay for extron over IP adapters
Some will say "over IP" but it can't be routed through a switch on a dedicated vlan, it essentially has to be transmitter, straight copper, receiver, which is "over LAN". Edit: Read the rest of your post and see you covered this
You can get some good deals on eBay for extron over IP adapters
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:15 pm to Hopeful Doc
Looks like that would work, i presume it's just broadcasting so everything would need to be on the same domain
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:19 pm to Hopeful Doc
There is no good solution for what you are looking for and I have spent several hours looking. I have found chromecast multicast(not 4k) to be the best as our game time TVs are indoor and outdoor, then in another semi-connected room 60’ away. Not as close as yours. Your options involve using HDMI splitters or spending $$$ on a commercial system and still be wired.
Absolutely stupid that ROKU ultra or Apple TV won’t synchronize to each other and chrome only kind of does, but complicated. Blame the DRM, fair enough, but this was easier in the 80s.
I am confident Roku or Apple will eventually come up with a solution, especially since 10gBASE-T is kind of common now.
Edit: since wired is ok for you, you are on the right path.
Absolutely stupid that ROKU ultra or Apple TV won’t synchronize to each other and chrome only kind of does, but complicated. Blame the DRM, fair enough, but this was easier in the 80s.
I am confident Roku or Apple will eventually come up with a solution, especially since 10gBASE-T is kind of common now.
Edit: since wired is ok for you, you are on the right path.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:31 pm to Dallaswho
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then in another semi-connected room 60’ away. Not as close as yours
That’s exactly the problem. If there wasn’t a way to see both (or all three. I didn’t explain that the outdoor TV would be visible from both locations because of a set of large windows and these both butt up against it)
Marantz (and others) have done a great job with audio sync. Agree that it’s sad that no one really even attempts video sync (though I’ll cede that I do understand that it’s a difficult endeavor).
If I couldn’t see all three locations at the same time, I wouldn’t care at all. But if I’m cooking chili and walk to the bathroom and see 3 out of sync TVs, it’s a little annoying. This product comes in roughly at the price of an Apple TV per location, so I find it intriguing. And if I built a place, I’d run enough redundant cat6 that sparing my network connection in the rooms would be possible. But in my retrofit world, I’m wondering if this is finally a passable solution for the question at hand (and then of course, if anyone else knows about CEC power-on pass through, that’d be great. But would think I would use a home assistant automation for the task. Leave an AppleTV (forgive me tech board. Wife and in laws require it) dedicated and a second one hooked to this, if HA detects it on, flip on all the attached TVs to appropriate HDMI channel and the opposite for when it is powered off)
ETA- I’ve passively spent many hours looking at this. I thought HDBaseT with Ethernet (10/100) pass through was the answer but it practically disappeared. I bought a point-to-point (there’s probably a better name for it) matrix distribution system from MonoPrice on the cheap once, but it had significant difficulty with HDCP (it worked perfectly for a couple hours once then never again)
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:28 pm to Hopeful Doc
Could something like this work? May need some computer hardware.
https://docs.videolan.me/vlc-user/desktop/3.0/en/advanced/streaming/index.html
https://blog.junico.uk/2018/07/29/testing-multicast-with-vlc-media-player/
https://docs.videolan.me/vlc-user/desktop/3.0/en/advanced/streaming/index.html
https://blog.junico.uk/2018/07/29/testing-multicast-with-vlc-media-player/
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:50 pm to wheelr
Will likely be somewhat difficulty to authenticate ESPN and my streaming cable network’s streams to “cast” them with VLC.
Would be a great option to sync a movie stored locally or a stream that’s not particularly well encrypted, but I think my use case is a little different than that. (Maybe not terribly difficult to fine the streaming file once, but certainly not going to be an easy way to flip through 2-4 games).
Would be a great option to sync a movie stored locally or a stream that’s not particularly well encrypted, but I think my use case is a little different than that. (Maybe not terribly difficult to fine the streaming file once, but certainly not going to be an easy way to flip through 2-4 games).
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:59 pm to Hopeful Doc
quote:
Will likely be somewhat difficulty to authenticate ESPN and my streaming cable network’s streams to “cast” them with VLC.
Probably have to stream via OBS to rtsp or something
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:03 pm to Hopeful Doc
In that blog link I noticed one tab for the input options has a capture card. Figured that may be usable.
It may not work. I don't use this stuff but have been learning about TCP/UDP. I thought surely someone has created an open source option and searched 'UDP video streaming' and good ol VLC was the majority of the results.
It may not work. I don't use this stuff but have been learning about TCP/UDP. I thought surely someone has created an open source option and searched 'UDP video streaming' and good ol VLC was the majority of the results.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:07 pm to wheelr
quote:
In that blog link I noticed one tab for the input options has a capture card. Figured that may be usable.
Ah. I do happen to have a Hauppauge Colossus. I hadn’t considered the possibility of using an AppleTV IN to the computer to multicast/broadcast/internally stream. I’d be limited to 720p but actually may try this soon
…but not today because apparently my windows boot is corrupted, and my Synology doesn’t want to restore my SSD, so I’m annoyed
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:21 pm to Hopeful Doc
quote:
Marantz (and others) have done a great job with audio sync.
No shite. You can even buy $20 echo dots and use the analog output to your old equipment to have incredible whole home perfectly-synchronized audio. (The full echos do just fine too). Audio is dirt cheap and functions perfectly.
The rights-management is the problem for video but I don’t even care if they dock me for each TV I use, I just want them synchronized. Nothing worse than hearing ppl inside or in another room cheering before you even know what’s going on. So even if you did have some distance between your screens, it would still be a potential problem.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 5:51 pm to Dallaswho
quote:
othing worse than hearing ppl inside or in another room cheering before you even know what’s going on.
Uh, that would be tailgating outside Tiger Stadium. Much worse. Actually, the worst may be the friend that doesn't turn off their notifications during a soccer match and says shite like, "oh, 3-1!" 60 seconds before we actually scored on TV. Love you, Spurs fan, and it only worked today because I thought there was no way we'd score 6, so I thought he was joking. Repeatedly.
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