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Lower interest rates and lower oil prices will save us...

Posted on 1/10/09 at 7:37 pm
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 7:37 pm
from going into another great depression. That is just my 5 beer down thoughts right now, but the extra cash that I just freed up on the re-fi and the cash I am now saving at the pump sure makes things seem alot better.
Anyone agree?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

from going into another great depression. That is just my 5 beer down thoughts right now, but the extra cash that I just freed up on the re-fi and the cash I am now saving at the pump sure makes things seem alot better.
Anyone agree?


NO
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2898 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 9:59 pm to
the calm before the storm
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 11:26 pm to
Nearing Thanksgiving everything seems normal to turkeys.
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Anyone agree?

Well its not going to hurt.

But think about this, so let's save you save $50 a week in gas (by it being cut in half), that is $2,600 a year. Awesome. But your house loses $25,000 in value, uh oh.

But it will make it easier, which is the point of lower rates.
Posted by Doc Holliday
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
46 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 11:40 pm to
if you are not trying to sell what does it matter if your house loses value? Short term, Of course if you lose your job and must sell you are screwed anyway
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 1/10/09 at 11:48 pm to
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if you are not trying to sell what does it matter if your house loses value?

what makes you think it will ever regain its value back? with unemployment rising, and banks tighting lending standards, house prices are unlikely to appreciate for a while. Most likely until average household income rises.

My parents bought a house in texas in 1985. They sold it in 1996, and took less than they paid for it.

eta: They may have purchased it in 1984 or 1986, and solid it in 1995. I was kid and don't remember exactly when they bought it.
This post was edited on 1/10/09 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 12:05 am to
Contraty to popular belief it has been shown by many surveys that most of the money people took out of their homes by refi was used for emergency medical or ordinary living expenses.

Contrary to popular belief most of the refi home extraction was not used for yachts, hummers, etc.

Now that homes are no longer a source of funds for emergency medical or ordinary living expenses where will people turn that need cash to remain solvent, out of bankruptcy?

Point being, it does matter what one's home is currently valued at, even if it is not going to be sold. The home as a source of refi money has been removed as an option for many home owners. At the same time these same homeowners have been hit by declining stock portfolio values, loss of value in retirement funds, more stringent credit card requirements, fear of job loss, etc. All in all, the decline in the value of homes is a disaster for many families.

Whether they paid too much for their homes and whether they should have been depending on their homes for a source of funds is another topic.
Posted by North Texas Tiger
Close to Ft Worth TX
Member since Mar 2004
4798 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 2:49 am to
Well when Chavez and all of his dictator buddies cut off oil to the US and drive the price back to $150 a barrel then I would have to say no....We will be begging to pay that price because our dumb arse will still have yet developed alternative energy and refuse to drill for oil in protected areas.....This is a temporary price and I predict within the next 6 months we will be paying $4 a gallon again and there will be no drop in sight. This will create a whole new crisis which we will not be able to solve because of previous problems and then its over....By over I mean the US will erupt into total disruption of services. This will lead into civil war...
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 4:21 am to
'civil war'...I think thats a misnomer. It should be called 'uncivil war'...but whatever it's called I don't want to see it happen. War woiuld simply make conditions a lot more miserable for a lot more people and it wouldn't solve our economic problems.
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 7:30 am to
Oh well, guess my thinking was off. Between the new mortgage payment and my much lower gas prices and energy bill, I am looking at as savings of around $450 a month. This is just free money to pay down other debt or spend on new stuff.

Also, thing about what the fuel prices are helping to do with the bottom line of so many companies right now.
I am not saying we are still not going into a sever recession, I just think this turn of events, if they stay this way for a while, will help us stay out of a depression.
This post was edited on 1/11/09 at 7:44 am
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