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re: Why is Muhammad Ali so revered when he is a racist POS?

Posted on 1/10/09 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by tjohn deaux
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 4:40 pm to
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When there are black coaches that would love to be considered for the job and at least interviewed and they aren't, what exactly do you call it?

Would you call it fair?

So would it be more fair if EVERY coach that would like to be interviewed MUST be interviewed, regardless of their resume? I do not think a person's race should be considered, period. If a black coach is passed over because he is black, then of course it is racism at it's worst and I disagree completely. I am just saying I don't believe forcing the opposite is the right answer.
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Just because some folk speak out about discrimination doesn't mean they always "use" it as a crutch.

Here is my entire statement: I'm saying that being mstreated or discriminated against is not something new, it is not isolated to one race, and should not be used as a crutch. By that I don't mean everyone uses it as a crutch.
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Are you kidding me? You can't be serious. Seriously, it's CLEAR you are not miseducated about MLK, you aren't even educated about him and what he spoke for.

Do some research and come back to me in a couple of years.

I will definitely take your advice, although I may not get back to you on it. I don't want to assume I know everything. Apparently I need to do some more research on MLK and shouldn't have made that statement.
This post was edited on 1/10/09 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 4:58 pm to
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So would it be more fair if EVERY coach that would like to be interviewed MUST be interviewed, regardless of their resume?


It'd be a long interview process to do that. Do you think it's that much trouble to interview one minority coach?

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I do not think a person's race should be considered, period


And most of the college and NFL head coaching positions have gone to white folk. Obviously, if blacks had their fair share of coaches considered and hired, these hiring practices that are talked about wouldn't be an issue. To a lot of folk, it's an issue.

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If a black coach is passed over because he is black, then of course it is racism at it's worst and I disagree completely.


Are you saying that is not occurring? It may not always be intentional or conscious, but something is wrong when a 33 year old coach like Lane Kiffin is passed over for a coordinator like Charlie Strong.

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am just saying I don't believe forcing the opposite is the right answer.




Then what is?

WEll, if you don't force it, nothing will really change for minority coaches. College football has a history of not hiring non-white people. Obviously, if it needs to be forced, then there is a problem.


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will definitely take your advice. I don't want to assume I know everything. Apparently I need to do some more research on MLK and shouldn't have made that statement.


Most people who are miseducated only know MLK by his "I Have A Dream" speech and only know the parts where he talks about judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

For starters, here is just another part of the rest of that speech:

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Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."
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