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Posted on 1/10/09 at 2:40 pm to Rocket
quote:your on your game , today.
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 2:42 pm to Ice Cold
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He was wasn't elected the first time. He was appointed by folk who were nominated for their position by folk like Ford, Reagan, and the elder Bush.
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 2:58 pm to SPEEDY
Wow an awful lot of people defend Ali's extremist beliefs regarding white people, I don't think anyone ever owned him as a slave, or any of the other things he talks about. But it's ok for him to say those things, yet not interviewing a black candidate for a coaching postion is racist. It's gone too far. Everybody is a victim of something and is entitled to something because of it. Bunch of pussies one and all. Life is hard. Their are many successful people of all races that didn't sit on their asses, whining and complaining of being held down because of their race. Those complainers and whiners are the ones who should be ashamed. MLK was preaching that if you want respect, be respectable, improve yourself, do something positive. He would be ashamed of the whiners too. Any time race is mentioned in any way, shape, or form, as part of a decision, good or bad, it's racist, no matter how you dress it up. It needs to just stop.
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:02 pm to tjohn deaux
dude, your talkin about a time you know nothing about, if you grew up in those times I would tip my hat to you, until then STFU.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:03 pm to tjohn deaux
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Any time race is mentioned in any way, shape, or form, as part of a decision, good or bad, it's racist, no matter how you dress it up. It needs to just stop.
THANK YOU!!!
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:10 pm to tjohn deaux
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Wow an awful lot of people defend Ali's extremist beliefs regarding white people
Those beliefs weren't uncommon among black people, I'd imagine, and there is a history of why those people felt that way. Some still do.
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yet not interviewing a black candidate for a coaching postion is racist
Are you telling me that there are no black coaches out there that are interested in becoming a head coach?
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Everybody is a victim of something and is entitled to something because of it
Are you saying there haven't been inequalities that exist between the dominant culture and minorities?
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MLK was preaching that if you want respect, be respectable, improve yourself, do something positive
People are terribly miseducated about MLK. He was so radical at that time, they killed him. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are alive and well today.
MLK was about to launch a major campaign that would have called for a massive redistribution of wealth in this country about the time he was killed. Anti-discrimination laws were just one part of what he wanted to accomplish.
This post was edited on 1/10/09 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:11 pm to tubucoco
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dude, your talkin about a time you know nothing about, if you grew up in those times I would tip my hat to you, until then STFU.
By that standard, don't ever say anything about slaveowners.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:11 pm to dukke v
so he spouts some bullshite at the end of his paragraph and you salute him brilliant, I just don't find it fair to attack someone about a time that none of us know anything about, didn't live in those times, don't know the hostilty people face in those times , so you just can't come right out and call someone a racist extremist without the whole picture.
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Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:15 pm to Kafka
quote:I can and I will, those are documented facts your talkin about, you on the the other hand is spouting hearsay.
By those standards, don't ever say anything about slaveowners.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:19 pm to tubucoco
[quote]dude, your talkin about a time you know nothing about, if you grew up in those times I would tip my hat to you, until then STFU.
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Yes those were very different times, the KKK often could kill and murder with virtual impunity b/c many of the local police were Klansmen themselves, even the FBI b/c of J Edgar Hoover was very unsympathetic in many cases.
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Yes those were very different times, the KKK often could kill and murder with virtual impunity b/c many of the local police were Klansmen themselves, even the FBI b/c of J Edgar Hoover was very unsympathetic in many cases.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:21 pm to tubucoco
dude, your talkin about a time you know nothing about, if you grew up in those times I would tip my hat to you, until then STFU.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:22 pm to Kafka
best you can do asswipe, like I said hearsay.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:29 pm to tubucoco
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so he spouts some bullshite at the end of his paragraph and you salute him brilliant, I just don't find it fair to attack someone about a time that none of us know anything about
I was there!! frick you for judging ME!!! ALI was an arse for NOT going to the draft!! But IT was HIS belief!! However I don't care what he says . He was a GREAT BOXER when it was a sport. IMO he did more for the African-American than most have !!!
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:30 pm to dukke v
ALI BOOMAYE ALI BOOMAYE ALI BOOMAYE
RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE
RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:32 pm to Ghazi
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ALI BOOMAYE ALI BOOMAYE ALI BOOMAYE
RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE
WHY DO YOU LIVE IN A COUNTRY YOU HATE???????????? Thats right!! Answer the question or leave!!!
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:36 pm to Kafka
I'll talk about a time that I know a lot about. Some random memories about Clay/Ali.
1. The draft dodging did not upset me because we used a draft board at that time and the boards were notoriously corrupt at exempting people with status in the town and punishing people not liked.
2. I remember him saying from jail "If they let me fight the taxes they would charge me would buy a tank." He was right.
3. Ali is part white and spoke often that "you want kids who look like you" and that's why he married a black woman ...as opposed to Jack Johnson.
4. White people almost unanimously wanted Liston to defeat Clay because Clay was brash/mouthy/uppity. Whites also wanted Patterson to beat
Clay because Patterson was a nice black guy.
5. Ali, in his youth...was the best fighter I've ever seen. He was a heavyweight with a lightweight's quickness. He could go through an entire fight without getting hit in the face. In later years he got in the face...a lot.
6. The only fighter I saw that might have been better in his era was Teophilo Stephenson of Cuba. They never met because Stephenson was never allowed to fight professionally. In their primes I would put my money on Teophilo...he was scary.
7. Reverence for Ali is similar to that of Elvis. Elvis was a white drug addict who made a lot of people happy singing. Personally, I hated Elvis' singing and I was very sorry when he died because I knew the radio stations would play his songs non stop for a week.
1. The draft dodging did not upset me because we used a draft board at that time and the boards were notoriously corrupt at exempting people with status in the town and punishing people not liked.
2. I remember him saying from jail "If they let me fight the taxes they would charge me would buy a tank." He was right.
3. Ali is part white and spoke often that "you want kids who look like you" and that's why he married a black woman ...as opposed to Jack Johnson.
4. White people almost unanimously wanted Liston to defeat Clay because Clay was brash/mouthy/uppity. Whites also wanted Patterson to beat
Clay because Patterson was a nice black guy.
5. Ali, in his youth...was the best fighter I've ever seen. He was a heavyweight with a lightweight's quickness. He could go through an entire fight without getting hit in the face. In later years he got in the face...a lot.
6. The only fighter I saw that might have been better in his era was Teophilo Stephenson of Cuba. They never met because Stephenson was never allowed to fight professionally. In their primes I would put my money on Teophilo...he was scary.
7. Reverence for Ali is similar to that of Elvis. Elvis was a white drug addict who made a lot of people happy singing. Personally, I hated Elvis' singing and I was very sorry when he died because I knew the radio stations would play his songs non stop for a week.
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:38 pm to dukke v
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WHY DO YOU LIVE IN A COUNTRY YOU HATE???????????? Thats right!! Answer the question or leave!!!
Is that from the MLK boondocks episode?
Posted on 1/10/09 at 3:40 pm to Zach
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6. The only fighter I saw that might have been better in his era was Teophilo Stephenson of Cuba. They never met because Stephenson was never allowed to fight professionally. In their primes I would put my money on Teophilo...he was scary.
I agree with everything but this!! You are an IDIOT if ALI would have let Stevenson do ANYTHING to him!!!!
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