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401k from previous employer question

Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:01 am
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
9770 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:01 am
This may sound like a dumb question but I have a 401k in Fidelity from a previous employer that I was looking at changing some of the investment choices. When I went online to change it, I noticed it would only let me change to only the investments offered by my previous company. Is there a way to move this money somewhere else so I can diversify the investments in Fidelity or am I stuck with the company 401k predetermined investments?
Posted by StonewallJack
Member since Apr 2008
848 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:04 am to
You should be able to do a roll over 401k Ira and then pick any stocks offered by Fidelity.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2292 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:46 am to
Not in the industry, but was not aware of your scenario. We moved money from wife's previous companies to IRAs without this problem. Mine is still with previous employer's plan, but am happy with the choices and their admin cost. We have accounts at both Vanguard and Fidelity and are not limited to choices.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10318 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 2:01 pm to
You can move it all out of Fidelity completely if you want, into an IRA or a Roth IRA. I move all my 401(k)s from jobs I quit nearly immediately. Go to Schwab or Ameriprise or any host of others, and open a rollover account. Depending on the company, they can usually get the money from your old plan within a few weeks.
Posted by SwampBooty
Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2015
770 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:20 pm to
If moving to IRA, does that affect ability to still do backdoor conversions?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10282 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:30 pm to
My wife has a 401k that is no longer actively funded due to companies changing. Could she roll it over to Schwab or Fidelity? Which would be best? Is it an IRA at that point?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43316 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 6:45 am to
it's best to roll 401K's into IRA's in my opinion

for instance, one of my IRA's is completely from all old 401K's from I guess 6 or 7 companies down through the years

then, you can move the IRA anywhere you want. Doesn't have to be Fidelity or the company your former employer decided on.

main thing is get it in IRA's (at least two, one being a Roth), and max the transfer amount from the traditional to the Roth each year.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10282 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 7:24 am to
quote:

get it in IRA's (at least two, one being a Roth), and max the transfer amount from the traditional to the Roth each year.
Wife and I both have Roth IRAs through Vanguard and max out contributions every year.

Are you saying that if both my wife’s Roth IRA and regular IRA (that her old 401k would roll into) are with Schwab or Fidelity (hesitant to use Vanguard for everything), then we can transfer a certain amount from the IRA to Roth? What is the advantage of doing that?
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 7:25 am
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7850 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:30 pm to
Similar situation. What stocks are you looking to put it in? Ive split mine between VOO and SPY
Posted by Sir Saint
1 post
Member since Jun 2010
5433 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:45 pm to
yes. Well technically it doesn't stop you from doing backdoor conversions, but it does introduce the pro rata rule which is usually a deal breaker for the backdoor roth.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
9770 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:05 pm to
wait, i'm confused now. so if i'm having to do a backdoor roth now, should I not move my previous employer 401k to a traditional IRA?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43316 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

we can transfer a certain amount from the IRA to Roth? What is the advantage of doing that?


I think it's 8k a year you can max into a Roth now. You want to do that every year. Ask your reps about the best way to do it.

That reminds me, I almost said "ask your GUY about the best way to do it" but my rep is a girl with my investment house, and she's the best I've ever had

...second part of your question, Roth income is tax free and so you'll be glad it's as high as possible when you're 59/half. Keep growing it until you're 70 or until they make you stop.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43316 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Similar situation. What stocks are you looking to put it in? Ive split mine between VOO and SPY


I've waited until the market was high, and then sold and ditched health care stock funds - either held them in cash and waited for a dip, or bought a fund that was always doing well


one named JGASX is a good growth fund, JP Morgan fund


probably good right now if you're profit taking, hold that all in cash and wait for a dip
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 6:28 pm
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