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Thoughts on Leo Frank?

Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Tigerroar73
Member since Oct 2014
366 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:03 pm
He seems guilty to me. It’s interesting how the politically correct view is that the black janitor did it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64948 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:21 pm to
They blamed two different black guys for the crime.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14339 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:36 pm to
There is a great book called And The Dead Shall Rise that is all about the Mary Pagan murder and Leo Frank trial.

It is very likely that the black janitor did it. The note found at the scene used vernacular very much like what uneducated blacks in Atlanta used at that time. Also, there was fresh, undisturbed feces under the elevator when the police arrived, which is speculated to mean no one had been down there between the murder and the body discovery.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:38 pm to
You know the rules…
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88637 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

There is a great book called And The Dead Shall Rise that is all about the Mary Pagan murder and Leo Frank trial.


A fictionalized account is the 1937 film “They Won’t Forget.”

The whole antisemitism angle is glossed over as simply residual North-South resentment left over from the Civil War. It’s actually a pretty forgettable movie, but for one exception: it’s the film debut of 17 year old Lana Turner (playing the Mary Phagan role) looking extremely buxom in a very tight sweater…which was the origin of her famous moniker “The Sweater Girl”.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:36 pm to
He was guilty
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20097 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:47 pm to
Per Wiki

“The case has inspired books, movies, a play, a musical, and a TV miniseries.”

A musical about a lynching, did they call it “Swinging in the Rain?”
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1372 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 9:04 pm to
Mega guilty.

Birth of pedo defending adl. They'd go on to more terrible things.

He got what he deserved and his wife knew the truth.

Lynching isn't right, but at times is understandable. This was one of those times.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 9:29 pm to
Do you think an all white jury in the south would let a black guy off who actually did the crime?

There were numerous prior complaints about Frank sexually assaulting other minor female employees
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64948 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 5:52 am to
quote:

There is a great book called And The Dead Shall Rise
quote:

It is very likely that the black janitor did it.
No. It fricking isn't.

Pencil factory employees testified that Frank was creepy and grabby with the women. He was known for it, having propositioned and even offered to pay girls for sex, and he was known to have had sex with underaged girls in his office. Fagan was found not only with head trauma but a chord was embedded in and around her neck, making any ‘accident’ claim impossible.

Maid said he came home drunk the night of the murder, was distraught, said he’d murdered someone and asked his wife for the pistol so he could shoot himself.

Frank’s wife did not go to see him at the ail for over two weeks. She never remarried and in her will, she explicitly stated that she did not wish to be buried next to Leo Frank, even though they had bought two plots together years before.

Black janitor said he was paid $200 to drag the body downstairs, that Frank had ‘wealthy family’ in NYC and would get him a job there.

Pencil Factory (Frank) hired Pinkerton Detective Agency to determine who the killer was. They determined it was Frank, and were then fired. The next agency hired by Frank, The Burns Agency, were caught trying to bribe the police with $1000 for the files and evidence. The agency then dropped Fran as a client and declared that they believed he was the killer.

Frank refused to testify, but instead insisted that he be allowed to read a statement. The statement was 4 hours long

Grand jury which included 4 jews unanimously voted to accuse before he was later convicted.

Frank was president of the Bnai brith of Atlanta, was re-elected as president while he was in custody. He had the most expensive lawyers in the south. They spent the equivalent of $24 million defending the case. Lasker, the jewish Chicago ad man who led the funding effort later said in his memoirs that he met Frank and was ‘personally disgusted’ by him, and said he was a ‘pervert. When he heard Frank was lynched, he said he felt ‘relief’ and that he felt mixed personal feelings about Frank. He said that he hoped that even if he managed to free Frank, that he would soon ‘perish in some accident.’

Advocates later published a book in 1966 which was billed as the ‘official’ story of what happened with Frank and the murder. This book was taught in colleges for decades, teaching provably false, fabricated info, including claims that there were crowds outside of the courtroom shouting to ‘kill the jew.’

This simple murder became a national story because BB circulated news articles in several major cities, professing Frank’s innocence and falsely accusing the black employee.

13 appeals were made and every court, including the USSC, affirmed the verdict.

They then bribed the governor to commute Frank’s death sentence to life in prison, after which the governor fled the state to New York.

ADL (of BB) was created when BB decided they needed a public relations dept. They have attempted to this day to exonerate Frank, actually telling people they have done so. 1982 they failed to get posthumous pardon, because the court refused to declare Frank innocent. In 1982, ADL bribed a worker from the factory to go around and put on shows declaring that Frank was innocent, but this ‘witness testimony’ was totally unfounded.

Their newspapers in the south blamed the murder on the ‘animal negro’ but the ones in the north blamed it on pure antisemitism.

In 1986, Frank was pardoned. The court did not declare him innocent, but rather, ‘without attempting to address the question of guilt or innocence’ pardoned him because the state failed to protect him from the lynch mob. But the ADL and many others still claim Frank was declared innocent.
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