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The blocked punt
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:47 am
Should it have been a penalty or not?
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:47 am to Dan0eaux
Yes
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:47 am to Dan0eaux
Yes. Clear rule violation.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:48 am to Dan0eaux
You would think it was the first blocked punt Herbstreit had ever seen.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:49 am to Dan0eaux
I thought the rule was not jumping over down linemen. I didn't think it applies to the blockers in front of the punter.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:03 am to Dan0eaux
Yes it was a foul that wasnt called. The rule reads...
Nothing saying "down lineman". Its any opponent. The rule is there for the jumper's safety.
quote:
It is a foul if a defensive player who is inside the tackle box tries to block a punt or an apparent punt by leaving their feet and leaping into the plane directly above the frame of the body of an opponent
quote:
I thought the rule was not jumping over down linemen. I didn't think it applies to the blockers in front of the punter.
Nothing saying "down lineman". Its any opponent. The rule is there for the jumper's safety.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:04 am to Dan0eaux
Every time I’ve seen someone try to jump over the protectors, I’ve always seen a flag thrown.
Always thought that was a flag.
Always thought that was a flag.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:08 am to jrodLSUke
quote:
I thought the rule was not jumping over down linemen. I didn't think it applies to the blockers in front of the punter.
That is the real question and I don't know if it is clear.
Here is the applicable rule, did he try to jump between the two guys?
quote:
It is a foul if a defensive player who is inside the tackle box tries to block a
punt or an apparent punt by leaving their feet and leaping into the plane
directly above the frame of the body of an opponent.
1. It is not a foul if the player tries to block the punt by jumping straight
up without attempting to leap over the opponent.
2. It is not a foul if a player leaps through or over the gap between players.
https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:10 am to mdomingue
He was directly over the head of one of the protectors after his leap. It should’ve been a penalty
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:12 am to Dan0eaux
I'm seeing a lot of media say LSU barely survived and were bailed out on questionable calls. Why is this not being mentioned among the calls? They were bad on both sides for officiating. That's an instant point swing due to the blocked punt? Or did they INT it on that drive? I can't remember. Either, still bad officiating on both sides.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:14 am to mdomingue
I'd have to watch it again but I seem to recall him leaping directly over the head of one of the defenders and eventually he fell into the gap to block the punt but that was after he fell off our guy's head. Seemed like a clear penalty to me.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:15 am to TigahTX
On the replay, he landed on his head... Whole reason they are trying to take that out of football
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:15 am to im4LSU
quote:
The rule is there for the jumper's safety.
Because he ended up landing on his head. Could have ended bad for him
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:17 am to napville2000
Exactly. Dangerous play refs missed it on purpose because that’s a blatant call in any other game
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:19 am to mdomingue
There was no gap, it was a wall.
Should've been a penalty and LSU ball again. Instead we turn it over and give SCAR another 7 points.
I don't give a damn that we got bailed out on a bad PI call. SCAR would've lost by two scores if we didn't have a secondary giving up 75 yard TD runs.
Should've been a penalty and LSU ball again. Instead we turn it over and give SCAR another 7 points.
I don't give a damn that we got bailed out on a bad PI call. SCAR would've lost by two scores if we didn't have a secondary giving up 75 yard TD runs.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:24 am to Dan0eaux
I’m much more concerned that the punt seemed to come off Todd’s foot kinda low and it also seems like it took him a little too long to get it off. Not sure it wasn’t getting blocked either way.
Regardless, I can see why it’s taken Todd so long to “win” the job. I think it was more by default. I predicted before the season that our punting was gonna really cost us at some point this year. I believe it now even more now that I’ve seen him in a few games.
If we can figure out how to run on short yardage and at least get a yard, I think we may be better off being more aggressive and going for it on 4th down and short, even on our side of the field. I think the risk/reward may favor going for it with the chance of keeping the ball than him really booming one and flipping the field.
Regardless, I can see why it’s taken Todd so long to “win” the job. I think it was more by default. I predicted before the season that our punting was gonna really cost us at some point this year. I believe it now even more now that I’ve seen him in a few games.
If we can figure out how to run on short yardage and at least get a yard, I think we may be better off being more aggressive and going for it on 4th down and short, even on our side of the field. I think the risk/reward may favor going for it with the chance of keeping the ball than him really booming one and flipping the field.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:25 am to mdomingue
quote:
did he try to jump between the two guys?
I think this goes out the window when you notice on the play he puts his hands on the middle defenders shoulder to help himself over.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:27 am to Dan0eaux
I dont know if still applicable form the recent rules changes, but i thought there used to be specific wording for what defenders/rushers could not do to the "shield" blockers in the punt formation...
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:29 am to napville2000
quote:Yep. And the up backs are basically stationary against full speed player. It’s to protect everyone.
On the replay, he landed on his head... Whole reason they are trying to take that out of football
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:31 am to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:
SCAR would've lost by two scores if we didn't have a secondary giving up 75 yard TD runs.
The two long runs were primarily on the lack of gap discipline
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