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The more foreigners there are in a sport, the less popular

Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:32 pm
Posted by rondembo
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:32 pm
The more foreigners there are in a sport, the less popular that sport is.

Not too long ago, baseball was the undesputed #1 sport. Then foreigners from japan and the carribean started entering the MLB. Basketball started importing foreigners from europe and asia and quickly saw a massive drop in its ratings to the point that the NBA is now struggling to maintain interest of the public and will never have the excitement of back when Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Jordan played. NHL became big when America won the Miracle on Ice, but since they Europeans and Canadians have been steadily taking over the league and now the NHL gets lower ratings than even the most foreign of sports, soccer.

Yet at the same time the NFL has maintained a almost unbroken all-American ideal, with foreigners mostly being kickers and other uncool position players, while the most cool and important and winner positions like the quarterback are exclusively reserved for Americans. Almost instantanously, the NFL has surpassed the increasingly foreign baseball and become the #1 sport. Other than a few kickers, no foreign players have ever had any influence of football. It is almost exclusively a non-foreign, non-wierd-names sport. It is the most masculine and all-American cool sports because of the cool all-American players.

The fact is that the more foreigners are in a sport, the more uncool and unpopular that sport will be.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:34 pm to
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NBA is now struggling to maintain interest of the public



I don't necessarily think this is true. In fact I think the NBA is on a resurgence...will it pass up the NFL? No...but it is getting more popular.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:35 pm to
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Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:38 pm to
Why do you hate hockey, msutiger?
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
78400 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:43 pm to
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they Europeans and Canadians have been steadily taking over the league and now the NHL gets lower ratings than even the most foreign of sports, soccer.


This isn't even close to correct. Nobody watches hockey because its not on TV, it was always heavily populated by foreigners.

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Basketball started importing foreigners from europe and asia and quickly saw a massive drop in its ratings to the point that the NBA is now struggling to maintain interest of the public and will never have the excitement of back when Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Jordan played.


Also incorrect this has more to do with what Charles Barkley would describe as " Who's Afraid of a Large Black Man" not Europeans. If anything players like Dirk and obviously Yao make the sport more popular.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153935 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:52 pm to
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Almost instantanously, the NFL has surpassed the increasingly foreign baseball and become the #1 sport.


Er, that happened in the 1960s...
Posted by Pistol...2K4
25 foot assassin
Member since Jun 2004
6918 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 6:54 pm to
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The more foreigners there are in a sport, the less popular that sport is.


that is a rather myopic view....the more foreigners involved in a sport , the more popular the sport may be OUTSIDE the USA.

quote:

Not too long ago, baseball was the undesputed #1 sport. Then foreigners from japan and the carribean started entering the MLB.


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but since they Europeans and Canadians have been steadily taking over the league and now the NHL gets lower ratings than even the most foreign of sports, soccer.


Actually , I would say that the decline in ratings for the sports that you mentioned could be better correlated to strikes between players unions and owners of the respective sport rather that who actually plays the game......oh and guess which sport is coming up against a possible union/management conflict???
Posted by BUSCH
Where I live
Member since Jun 2008
2431 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 7:06 pm to
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rondembo


racist.


Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 7:19 pm to
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Not too long ago, baseball was the undesputed #1 sport.


How long? The NFL has been a distant #1 for as long as I can remember.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117799 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 8:14 pm to
Football began to overtake baseball with the creation of the Super Bowl. The Jets victory in 1969 followed by the Chiefs victory in 1970 forced the merger of the NFL and the AFL. It created a situation that was helped immensely by the genius that was Pete Rozelle. Baseball's labor issues that began with the Curt Flood situation that began free agency in baseball pushed the average Joe Six-pack towards football and it has never looked back. Also football is just a better game to watch on TV.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
47156 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 8:41 pm to
Baseball hasn't really been popular since the last strike, or at least that's when I stopped watching it and most people I know that don't watch baseball now will name that as the reason. the NBA is on a major upswing IMO IMHO.

and Rondembo, what the frick is your problem?
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117799 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 8:48 pm to
MJC, he is a major a-hole who does not appreciate athletic talent unless it is related to American football. He believes that soccer players are pussies. I would like to see him take on John Terry or Wayne Rooney in a bar fight. Watch out for the drunken British head-butt. Does anyone really believe that if a 6'1" 200lb guy from Germany who runs a 4.5 forty who would have grown up in California, Texas or any where else wouldn't be a safety or WR in the NFL?
One example, Jason Seahorn was considered a better soccer player than he was a football player, the best white DB in a long time in the NFL. MJC, for many igronance is bliss.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
47156 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 8:53 pm to
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MJC, he is a major a-hole who does not appreciate athletic talent unless it is related to American football. He believes that soccer players are pussies. I would like to see him take on John Terry or Wayne Rooney in a bar fight. Watch out for the drunken British head-butt. Does anyone really believe that if a 6'1" 200lb guy from Germany who runs a 4.5 forty who would have grown up in California, Texas or any where else wouldn't be a safety or WR in the NFL?
One example, Jason Seahorn was considered a better soccer player than he was a football player, the best white DB in a long time in the NFL. MJC, for many igronance is bliss.


I acquired an admiration of Futbol non Americano in my foreign travels and especially during the last world cup, that's a Mans game for sure. this dude is just a flamer and someones alter though, just wondering who.

Oh and Seahorn was a great athlete but he was made of glass.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71364 posts
Posted on 12/26/08 at 9:31 pm to
i just find it boring not enough scoring but watching it in HD is amazing
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