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re: I was inside the court when the judge closed the Trump trial, and what I saw shocked me
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:59 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:59 pm to BBONDS25
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I have not read all of the transcripts. I have also not seen a single report stating that the statutes and elements were described to the jury and evidence of intent presented. Have you?
I have not seen everything presented nor read all of the transcripts, but if you had read just the opening statement for the prosecution you would know they started discussing the underlying crimes in the 3rd sentence.
I've never made the claim that the prosecution will win. I've never made the claim that they have presented the required evidence. You are once again moving the goal posts.
Your side is out there saying that no one can even name the underlying crimes. That's bullshite. They have been laid out by the prosecutor and have been discussed during the trial. I'm not claiming they have proven guilt or intent, but your claim that they can't be listed is pure lunacy and a denial of reality.
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:07 pm to RedStickFox
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I have not seen everything presented nor read all of the transcripts, but if you had read just the opening statement for the prosecution you would know they started discussing the underlying crimes in the 3rd sentence.
They must describe them and the elements. They may have done that. I just have not seen a single report on it. In fact, the only report I’ve seen where they are described was linked in this thread. That report said they had to go to the opposition to the motion to get clarification. That led me to believe it was not presented at trial. Can you link a report that describes how it was presented to the jury. Opening arguments are not evidence. Since the jury does not see the pre-trial motions and arguments, it stands to reason they have not been presented what is required.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:12 pm to RedStickFox
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but your claim that they can't be listed is pure lunacy and a denial of reality.
You are correct. I was incorrect to say “crimes”. I should have said “charges”.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:17 pm to RedStickFox
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I have not seen everything presented nor read all of the transcripts
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