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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:05 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:05 pm to lsupride87
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IVF is creating life that otherwise wouldn’t be created thanks to “gods will”. Not sure why someone that says life is the greatest of gifts should be upset
What Catholics say is:
1) The creation of that life if IVF isn’t through the natural/unitive part of God’s plan. (For the record, Catholics would also say a child conceived out of wedlock similarly isn’t part of the unitive part, though it is of course natural.)
2) The nanosecond an individual is conceived (no matter how, whether naturally, IVF, surrogate, within marriage, outside of marriage, etc.) that person is in the image and likeness of God. That doesn’t mean the process was natural and/or unitive. It also doesn’t mean that person is any less special/worthy.
3) The IVF vs euthanasia in both cases are sort of “playing God” in a lab/hospice/not naturally, one at the beginning to create life, one at the finality to end life.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:26 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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3) The IVF vs euthanasia in both cases are sort of “playing God” in a lab/hospice/not naturally, one at the beginning to create life, one at the finality to end life.
So… if someone has heart disease and gets a stent or bypass, that must be against God’s will right?
If someone gets cancer and goes through surgery and chemotherapy, that has got to be against gods will then ?
If an old lady with a bad hip gets a new one, boom against god’s will.
Seems like if IVF is bad and against the will of God, so is literally ANY medical treatment ever discovered.
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