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re: Is the "housing shortage" overblown?

Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:41 am to
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:41 am to
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Crime/ decaying cities take huge anm off inventory off the market. Revitalizing cities- having sensible public policy- ie not allowing Democrats to run cities into the ground - would result in a massive amounts of real estate being available. But if we just have de facto no go zones for law abiding family types, and we keep moving further and further out of cities- we will have to rely on the creation of new construction inventory .


I don’t live in Louisiana, but this idea of urban decay is the exact opposite of what’s happened in Tennessee. 20 years ago downtown Nashville was basically half of what it is now. Downtown Knoxville was almost dead. Areas like East Nashville were dangerous and North Knoxville had very few businesses. Now both downtowns are busy and growing. East Nashville and North Knoxville are filled with millennial homeowners, breweries, and good restaurants. Cities here aren’t decaying, they are thriving
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:19 am to
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I don’t live in Louisiana, but this idea of urban decay is the exact opposite of what’s happened in Tennessee. 20 years ago downtown Nashville was basically half of what it is now. Downtown Knoxville was almost dead. Areas like East Nashville were dangerous and North Knoxville had very few businesses. Now both downtowns are busy and growing. East Nashville and North Knoxville are filled with millennial homeowners, breweries, and good restaurants. Cities here aren’t decaying, they are thriving

Atlanta is the same way. Not downtown but the neighborhoods in W.Midtown and the eastern sections of the city(Grant Park, Kirkwood, East Lake, E.Atlanta, Virginia Highland) have exploded the last 15 years and the city has gentrified to the point that it is no longer majority-minority.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2984 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:05 pm to
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don’t live in Louisiana, but this idea of urban decay is the exact opposite of what’s happened in Tennessee. 20 years ago downtown Nashville was basically half of what it is now. Downtown Knoxville was almost dead. Areas like East Nashville were dangerous and North Knoxville had very few businesses. Now both downtowns are busy and growing. East Nashville and North Knoxville are filled with millennial homeowners, breweries, and good restaurants. Cities here aren’t decaying, they are thriving


It's area by area for sure. Louisiana chased out a lot of its educated Gen X and Millenials for the past two decades. A lot of that inner city urban renewal wasn't a thing here except for maybe a couple of pockets.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:19 pm to
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I don’t live in Louisiana, but this idea of urban decay is the exact opposite of what’s happened in Tennessee. 20 years ago downtown Nashville was basically half of what it is now. Downtown Knoxville was almost dead. Areas like East Nashville were dangerous and North Knoxville had very few businesses. Now both downtowns are busy and growing. East Nashville and North Knoxville are filled with millennial homeowners, breweries, and good restaurants. Cities here aren’t decaying, they are thriving


Nashville and East TN are the exception, not the norm. Very high population and economic growth in areas that were ready for it. Of course that has still come at a price - the cost of housing has exploded, traffic has gotten terrible and the crappy public school systems still push people into expensive private schools.

Meanwhile over in Memphis 70% of the city is still a no-go warzone and it's a rat race for decent folks to cram into the remaining 30%. At least Memphis has the less densely populated regions of northern Mississippi right across the border to serve as a pressure release for the Middle Class. Most cities don't have that.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:25 pm to
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I don’t live in Louisiana, but this idea of urban decay is the exact opposite of what’s happened in Tennessee. 20 years ago downtown Nashville was basically half of what it is now. Downtown Knoxville was almost dead. Areas like East Nashville were dangerous and North Knoxville had very few businesses. Now both downtowns are busy and growing. East Nashville and North Knoxville are filled with millennial homeowners, breweries, and good restaurants. Cities here aren’t decaying, they are thriving



80 something percent if not 90 something percent of southern cities and the city center and surrounding areas is night-and-day safer and nicer and more vibrant than it was 30 years ago. Frigging Macon Georgia of all places has loft apartments downtown and overpriced housing. Janky-arse Augusta and Columbus too.

Where this whole "big cities used to be really nice but now they're shite holes" narrative is coming fron is beyond me.

Midtown Atlanta and downtown Atlanta were not places where you wanted to be after dark in the 1980s.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 9:31 pm
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