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re: Is the serial killer obsolete today?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:07 am to geauxjo
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:07 am to geauxjo
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Bryan Kohberger is a serial killer who was caught after his first crime committed. The modern technology available did him in. I’m not sure he’d have been caught if you take those tools out of the mix. In addition to some mistakes by him.
Wouldn't be shocked if he had done more previously but probably not. For as smart as he thinks he was, he was still a fricking imbecile.
But yeah, 20, 30, 40 years ago, this dude would have been a major killer.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:31 am to ghost2most
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For as smart as he thinks he was, he was still a fricking imbecile.
And wasn't he a criminal justice major.
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:55 pm to ghost2most
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Wouldn't be shocked if he had done more previously but probably not. For as smart as he thinks he was, he was still a fricking imbecile.
IIRC, the initial DNA evidence didn't turn up anything because he wasn't arrested or convicted before. There was no cross match to another crime scene either. So he likely didn't do that before. .
I haven't been following very closely since all this was in the news, but I think he went into the house to target a specific person and ended up killing more people than he wanted to deal with. He bit off more than he can chew and started to panic. He left someone that gave a very good description of him to police.
He also had a fairly normal car with a unique characteristic for the area: the lack of a front license plate. So the cops had a make/model and a list of states where it was probably registered.....which lead them to a few suspects, one of which fit the description a witness provided to cops.
That lead the cops to cell phone records, which were suspicious enough to warrant more surveillance. Then he drove across the country which was more suspicious.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:59 pm to ghost2most
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Wouldn't be shocked if he had done more previously but probably not. For as smart as he thinks he was, he was still a fricking imbecile.
But yeah, 20, 30, 40 years ago, this dude would have been a major killer.
Yeah, there's no doubt he was a budding serial killer. And he was smart and planned it well. But it was the variables that he hadn't planned for--or thought through--that did him in. I think he scouted that house for a long time and expected only 4 small girls being there. But there was an extra girl who had moved out that had come back that weekend to show off her new vehicle. There was also a boyfriend there that may not have usually. I think the boyfriend probably put up a little more fight, and he struggled a bit with him, causing him to leave his knife sheath, where they found his DNA on the snap.
Still, he wasn't in the system, so there was nothing to compare that DNA to that would point to him. But I think it made him freak out a bit and got the frick out of there, leaving 2 survivors, one who saw him (I think she'll be a huge witness at trial).
But still, nothing pointing at him. It's pretty incredible that he was able to afflict so much carnage without leaving any more DNA. And he did take his phone, but turned it off when he left Washington state. Very suspicious and eventually damning, but still nothing pointing at him to even know to check his phone history. And he could have even been aware of Ring cams and business cams, but knew they couldn't pick up his license plate number and wouldn't know what times to even look. And he drove a pretty generic car that hundreds, if not thousands of other people nearby drove a similar make/model.
2 things he didn't count on/think about:
1) one of the girls ordered Door Dash and had it delivered right before the murders. That, along with the other girls' phone records helped police really narrow down a time line, so they knew what time to really focus on video from a certain time.
2) As generic as his car was, Washington state (and maybe Idaho, I may have the exact details off) requires both a front and rear license plate, and his car was still registered in Pennsylvania, which only requires a rear plate. (He may have recently registered it in Washington, but hadn't put the front plate on). So when a bunch of cameras picked up that car driving around very suspiciously made unique by not having a front license plate, agencies in Washington and Idaho started looking for cars that matched the make model without a front license plate. I think they found his at WSU.
And apparently that was enough (combined with him matching the witness's ID) to get a warrant that lead to getting his cellphone records and DNA, both damning. Neither of which, though, they'd have ever been able to use without finding his car, which they likely wouldn't have had he put the front license plate on. Or at least it would have taken a lot longer. And he was somehow able to not bring any of the girls' DNA into the car, which again, is amazing considering how violent the murders were.
So, he was smart and planned it well, but just ran across some variables he hadn't accounted for and, thank God, was caught relatively shortly. But if 2 or 3 thing had gone a different way, he'd still be on the loose. Luck plays a big part. Look at how they caught the Delphi Murders guy and how long that took. I'll get into that later when I have more time.
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