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re: Boy Scouts of America changing name to be more inclusive

Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:57 pm to
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If your kid is an Eagle Scout at 13, I’m not so sure it was “earned”

Granted, I slacked and made Eagle right before my 18th birthday, but there’s no way a 13 year old should be an Eagle if the program was run properly


You have no idea of what he's done or how he's done it. Ironically, he was the last of his webelo class to make "Scout" and tenderfoot. Then he got a fire lit under his bum. Only one other scout from his cross over is still with the troop (two moved away and two quit).

The best thing he ever did for his scouting career was take First aid, swimming and pioneering merit badges at his first summer camp two years ago. Those three badges knocked out so many first and second class requirements and put him so far ahead of the curve. During free time at camp that summer, while the other kids were at the trading post or goofing off, he had the ear of one of our scoutmasters checking off rank requirements. That first year at camp he was really home sick and kind of shy around the other kids. I think our adult leaders saw this and worked with him to keep him engaged. We've got some great scoutmasters in our troop.

The other thing that really helped him that summer is my wife had major surgery that year and was in the bed for many weeks. Before her surgery, she signed him up for sports camps every week (bike riding distance from the house). As a result he was able to get the 3 "30 days of physical activity" for tenderfoot, second class and first class that tend to hold a lot of kids up with those ranks.

So when you say it wasn't earned, I'll say even as an Eagle scout you have no idea what you're talking about. Just because you were unmotivated, doesn't mean other kids are as well.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:59 pm to
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So when you say it wasn't earned, I'll say even as an Eagle scout you have no idea what you're talking about.


It will always be questioned, even from Eagles, with all the leader requirements and time restraints. That young just sounds like ticking boxes as fast as you can. It's not uncommon and they are arguing currently about it on the BSA reddit about what is too young.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Those three badges knocked out so many first and second class requirements and put him so far ahead of the curve.


His scoutmaster should jlnot have allowed him to count work twice. If he did it for a merit badge, he is supposed to do it again for the rank.
Posted by FleurDeLonestar
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 2:48 pm to
I do believe I know exactly what I’m talking about as someone who has been there and done that

I’ll double down and say it really wasn’t earned when you type out a defense like you did. How big is his troop? Is he attaining leadership roles by default or is he actually being voted for over much senior troop members?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 2:56 pm to
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Those three badges knocked out so many first and second class requirements and put him so far ahead of the curve.
how long ago was this? There are time requirements now. 4 months as First Class, 6 months as Star, 6 months at Life - plus a leadership role for 6 months but that can be during the time requirements.

My husband was an Eagle Scout at 14. My oldest son just made Eagle last year, my next son will be before December when he turns 18.

Not sure if the younger two sons will be able to complete before it all really turns to shite.

I guess it can done at 13 if the troop is on the ball with pumping requirements out. Covid messed up my older 3 boys and our troop sort of lollygags but it is a big troop.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:00 pm
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