Even with BI at $50 and Murray at $25-$30? Money is a big part of the equation and probably a big part of why it looks like they aren’t going to try and kick the can down the road again.

Also, Murray has an All star season and was 2nd in MIP voting that year, so close to BI’s award resume too. I’ll admit I haven’t watched Murray enough to be an expert on him, but on paper he seems like he offers production similar to BI’s but is a better fit next to Zion on a much better contract.

I will also say, and I almost posted this in the Ant thread because Ant very clearly had that IT factor visible even as a rookie. You know who else has shown IT as a rookie that’s on the Pels? Jordan Hawkins. You ask where the scoring when the defense clamps down will come from if we trade BI? If Hawkins can get his defense good enough for Willie, I think Hawkins is that guy. He has an absurdly quick release, irrational confidence, and the poise of a champion.

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Posted by TeddyPadillac

Member since Dec 2010

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:43 am to TigerinATL

I get the money factor plays a big role, but guys values don’t change dramatically in the span of a 2 months.
Two months ago, when we were the 4 seed and had a top 3 net ranking while everyone was healthy, and ATL was shitting the bed, you can’t tell me BI and Murray had somewhat near value. ATL couldn’t get anything for Murray at the trade deadline.

BI and Trae get hurt and now Murray has similar value to BI based on 20 games played?

And I’m not saying I don’t want to get Murray, B/c I do, but he’s coming here as a PG, and I have to trade my two SGs and keep my horrible defender and “pg” in CJ. That makes no sense and doesn’t make us better.
Murray/Herb backcourt is better than Murray/CJ by a lot. I’m not trading Herb.
I’m not trading Herb.

I don’t care enough about Jarrett Allen to make that trade and lose Herb.

If the trade was simply #10 and Murray for BI, then I’ll do that.

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Posted by NOSHAU

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:46 pm to TigerinATL

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I will also say, and I almost posted this in the Ant thread because Ant very clearly had that IT factor visible even as a rookie. You know who else has shown IT as a rookie that’s on the Pels? Jordan Hawkins. You ask where the scoring when the defense clamps down will come from if we trade BI? If Hawkins can get his defense good enough for Willie, I think Hawkins is that guy. He has an absurdly quick release, irrational confidence, and the poise of a champion.

I like Hawk, but I would not compare him to Ant at all when it comes to the "it" factor. They are on much different levels.

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