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re: 12 Year Old Girl with BPD

Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Leotiger725
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:49 pm to
Big Scrub

You are a nut and mushrooms and MDMA are not the answer. Maybe for adult veterans suffering from PTSD, but not a 12 year old girl.

I disagree with everything you post on TD.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33656 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:14 pm to
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You are a nut and mushrooms and MDMA are not the answer. Maybe for adult veterans suffering from PTSD, but not a 12 year old girl.
Agreed that 12 is too young, but this is going to be a long-term thing you are dealing with. You should spend some time learning about as many therapies as you can. MDMA-assisted therapy is likely very soon to be approved by FDA. The key part is "assisted therapy" - it's not just taking drugs.

It's fine to hate on me all you want, I'm just trying to help. The most recent Phase 3 Trial data is actually quite promising for treating BPD. I don't know the earliest age they will allow a patient to enter a study (I'm guessing 18, but not sure about exceptions or other countries).

quote:

MDMA may have potential to improve treatment outcomes for individuals with borderline personality disorder. In particular, we hypothesize that the acute effects of MDMA may promote reduced emotional avoidance and support the development of a strong therapeutic rapport associated with disclosure of important therapeutic material, catalyzing more fulsome processing of traumatic invalidation or trauma. These hypothesized mechanisms may support shifts in the attachment-related structures that play a role in persistent areas of dysregulation and dysfunction among patients with borderline personality disorder, such as interpersonal and affective symptoms and related suicidal tendencies. With recent findings supporting the efficacy of MDMA-AP for PTSD, exploring the use of MDMA among individuals with borderline personality disorder appears fully warranted.


LINK

I understand you are reeling, but you should reconsider dismissing treatments out of hand before even learning about them. At some point, she will be old enough.

I do know of some teens legally receiving psilocybin therapy as young as 16 - but it was out of the country.

Again, hate on me all you want, I don't take it personally. I'm simply leaving information here that could be of possible long term help in your situation.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52859 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:15 pm to
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You are a nut and mushrooms and MDMA are not the answer. Maybe for adult veterans suffering from PTSD, but not a 12 year old girl.



It seems crazy, but its not. Not saying that you should or should not look into this for your child, but psychedelic, MDMA, Ketamine, etc psychotherapy is becoming more and more mainstream, and that is because it has been proven affective for certain disorders.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1638 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:06 pm to
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Maybe for adult veterans suffering from PTSD, but not a 12 year old girl.



Just to be clear, as I replied about it also, and my screenname is Mushroom, I don't at all advocate doing this for a 12 year old child.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
38998 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:25 pm to
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and mushrooms and MDMA are not the answer
you don’t know that. Age has nothing to do with it. Your daughters wires are crossed, psychedelics can uncross them. If it were me I’d be trying everything and not discounting a safe remedy that could change her life

BTW it’s obvious from your comments here that you are frustrated and angry. I get it and I can’t imagine the stress you are under. But…it’s not her fault. She didn’t ask for this

Your job is to find answers and fast. Talk to your doctor about therapeutic mushrooms and see what he says. Do some research
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