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re: Do we have an argument to get in a regional…
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:33 pm to Choupique19
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:33 pm to Choupique19
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LSU will get in a regional at 13-17, regardless of how it happens over the next 3 weeks
I don't think I would go that far. LSU needs 6 wins to get to 13. If three of those come against Ole Miss that's not going to have much of an impact given Ole Miss isn't very good. LSU really needs 4 of the requisite 6 more wins to come against Alabama and (especially) A&M to feel better.
LSU's overall resume just isn't very good. Their non-conf. SOS isn't good (currently 137) and probably won't get much better (might get worse) with only games against Grambling and Northwestern St. remaining.
In conference they are 3-12 against likely NCAA Tournament teams. Ole Miss isn't a likely NCAA Tournament team, so piling up 3 wins against them won't register too much.
Texas A&M made a regional last year with a 14-16 SEC record. But their overall resume was more impressive than LSU's (at the moment). A&M took 2/3 from Auburn, Kentucky and Florida (all NCAAT teams). Plus, they had a better NC SOS than LSU (not great, but better).
Compare that to LSU who, to date, has done NOTHING noteworthy. They have only two SEC series wins...against two of the worst teams in the league who won't make the NCAAT. Ole Miss likely won't make the NCAAT either, so winning a series from them probably won't register much either.
Could 13 SEC wins get LSU in? Yes. But it may depend upon what those 13 look like. 13 wins with over half coming against the bottom of the SEC (Auburn, Missouri, Ole Miss) won't make a strong argument
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:07 pm to Alt26
SOS is flawed in the sense of how many more wins would LSU have if they had the same schedule of some of the lower end top 25 teams. There is nothing about ULL, Utah, or Indiana States schedules that scream out “difficult”. Each team only has what 54 games, and for LSU more than half come against the best teams in the nation. When they understandably lose those games they are at a significant disadvantage.
I don’t understand RPI and haven’t put the effort in to understanding it, but is it supposed to be a better metric than overall SOS?
Does the committee give more weight to sos or rpi when looking at this group of 34 or so teams and trying to make a decision? I appreciate your input as you seem very knowledgeable on all this.
Also just to clarify, I’ve never meant to suggest that LSU deserves to be in over teams like ULL, or Utah. I was simply asking once we got to the point of looking at the human element, what all factors were taken into consideration. From where I’m sitting there is evidence that LSU is better than ULL when you factor in wins vs top 25 teams, common opponents, and head to head matchup so when discussing the last teams in, that seems like a valid argument.
I don’t understand RPI and haven’t put the effort in to understanding it, but is it supposed to be a better metric than overall SOS?
Does the committee give more weight to sos or rpi when looking at this group of 34 or so teams and trying to make a decision? I appreciate your input as you seem very knowledgeable on all this.
Also just to clarify, I’ve never meant to suggest that LSU deserves to be in over teams like ULL, or Utah. I was simply asking once we got to the point of looking at the human element, what all factors were taken into consideration. From where I’m sitting there is evidence that LSU is better than ULL when you factor in wins vs top 25 teams, common opponents, and head to head matchup so when discussing the last teams in, that seems like a valid argument.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:34 am to Alt26
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I don't think I would go that far. LSU needs 6 wins to get to 13. If three of those come against Ole Miss that's not going to have much of an impact given Ole Miss isn't very good. LSU really needs 4 of the requisite 6 more wins to come against Alabama and (especially) A&M to feel better.
Current RPI
#1 A&M
#15 Bama
#29 Ole Miss
If LSU goes 6-3 against these three teams, their RPI could jump enough to get in (or be damn close) b/c that means they won at least 1 series against either the #1 or #15 team in RPI. A win or two in the SEC tourney wouldn't hurt.
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