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re: Andrew Weissmann's intentional ignorance on checks and balances.

Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:23 am to
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One more time for the people in the back:

“The President of the United States would be liable to be impeached, tried, and, upon conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors, removed from office; and would afterwards be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law.”

-Alexander Hamilton
Federalist Papers 69

The word "afterwards" did not make it into the Constitution.

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Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:25 am to
Even that quote doesn't state, or imply, a causal relationship/requirement.

I just read that portion of the Federalist Paper from where it emerges and he's countering the liability of a President to the British monarchy. to distinguish the two.

He's just using efficient language to say that the Constitution has a remedy and the President would still even face potential criminal liability, as opposed to the monarch.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30056 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:26 am to
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The word "afterwards" did not make it into the Constitution.


Party convicted

Convicted of what?
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9750 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:08 pm to
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but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable



It says the party convicted...meaning after being removed from office by impeachment conviction.



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