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re: To all the Ukraine/Russia experts on the board
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:45 am to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:45 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Please explain to me in real terms how Russia taking Ukraine would affect me.
It's not Ukraine. Ukraine is just the first stop on the way to Poland and Romania. Ukraine, by itself, does nothing to improve Russia's security situation. It will affect you if we end up in an actual shooting war with Russia.
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Please tell me what amount of your own money are you willing to donate to Ukraine to prevent this from happening?
I don't want to send them cash, but I have no problem sending them old hardware that we were going to give away or decommission anyway.
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Would you be Ok with bankrupting America if it prevented Russia from taking Ukraine?
No, but we're beyond bankrupt anyway. There shouldn't be money "for Ukraine" in our budget. There should just be money in the defense budget to replace the old stuff that we send to Ukraine.
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Why are Ukraine's borders worth protecting but our own borders are not?
This doesn't really have anything to do with Ukraine. We should completely lock down our own border regardless of what happens in Europe.
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:14 am to Tantal
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Ukraine is just the first stop on the way to Poland and Romania.
You people acting like Russia is the boogeyman we have to save Europe from are hilarious. This entire conflict was started by the US so they can further surround Russia with NATO entities and destabilize Russia with intent to have a like minded leader installed there as well.
The CIA ousted Yanukovych in 2014 with a color revolution and installed Zelensky (preventing an economic agreement with Russia). The CIA then built over 26 bio labs (Nuland testified to this in Congress for justifying more cash), then CIA built 12 secret forward ops bases (as noted in the NYT article) with which were used to run ops against Russia. Then the CIA blew up Russia's Nordstream pipeline (likely to prevent Germany and others from reaching a deal with Russia and money to US contractors for supplying gas). Then there's Navalny. No certain details about him, but he had connections to CIA and MI6. Russia is defending itself. If you pull the CIA out of Ukraine, this entire conflict ends immediately. If Russia pulled all that crap in Mexico, you'd better believe the US would be doing the same thing and invading the border country.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:45 am to Tantal
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Ukraine is just the first stop on the way to Poland and Romania.
Before you know it, Russia will be in Paris and London.
If Ukraine can beat Russia with just our weapons and not our manpower, then there is no way in hell Russia could ever threaten Poland and beyond. It doesn't make any sense to think Russia will go into Poland based on how this war has progressed (there was never a reason to believe this either).
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