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re: "Conservatism" has to be more than just a defensive posture

Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:04 am to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:04 am to
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I used to refer to this as the "They oughtta" mindset.

Ever time you see a problem, you think to yourself, "they oughtta" as if there's some miraculous all knowing "they" out there comprised of angels and saints.


Again. I'm not really advocating for Republicans to just go so things out of the bounds of the legal and moral bounds.

But we should recognize the current system for what it is, and not necessarily what we want it to be. We can certainly take strides towards that system, but we still have to operate under the current system in place, or otherwise we are just fighting at an unnecessary disadvantage.

What if Saul Alynskey and George Soros were conservatives? What would they do that we aren't willing to do achieve good outcomes?
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by Wishing Well
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:13 am to
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But we should recognize the current system for what it is, and not necessarily what we want it to be. We can certainly take strides towards that system, but we still have to operate under the current system in place, or otherwise we are just fighting at an unnecessary disadvantage.


I agree with you.

My issue in this thread was with the 70 year outdated notion that conservatism wasn't about "change" or "progress".

That's what conservatism USED TO BE until liberals went fricking nuts from FDR forward.

Today, liberalism is the status quo. Conservatives are for change. Liberals will say conservatives want to "regress" because liberals stupidly think any and all change done by them represents "progress".

But they haven't had a new idea in the last 100 years. There's not single thought in pretty liberal heads that wasn't already thought of by Marx.
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