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re: Marques Brownlee explains the Apple Antitrust lawsuit
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:57 pm to Dam Guide
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:57 pm to Dam Guide
Apple is going to use the RCS Universal Profile not Google's Jibe. I believe they've also indicated they are going to work with GSMA to add encryption to the Universal Profile.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 10:03 pm
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:02 am to Fat Batman
My non-lawyer take is that most all of everyone's statements are true at the same time:
-Apple is kinda getting hosed here. They built a superior product and marketed da fuq outta it. It's the most popular phone/messagine (with imessage) platform in the US.
-Google/android users do get hosed somewhat that apple users are locked into imessage which always screws up messaging to android users aka sms/mms.
-If the roles were reversed, both companies would be doing the same thing, just reversed.
-At the end of the day, I personally, don't see imessage as a monopoly. It's part of the ecosystem within apple's phones. There are clear alternatives out there to an iphone. The consumer has spoken within the US market so it shouldn't be on apple to play nice with opponents. Competitors should merely do better or build a better product in order to make Apple the inferior product.
It's called competition by innovation to me. Google/Android seems, again, to me, to be trying to bitch smack Apple but by the Govt's hand. That leads to a slippery slope.
ETA: In full disclosure, I'm an apple user and my whole family is too. That being said, I also use an nVidia Shield TV and have had android phones. I like the product, I just like Apple for my family/kids a bit better. They both do things really well and have both spurred innovation from each other.
-Apple is kinda getting hosed here. They built a superior product and marketed da fuq outta it. It's the most popular phone/messagine (with imessage) platform in the US.
-Google/android users do get hosed somewhat that apple users are locked into imessage which always screws up messaging to android users aka sms/mms.
-If the roles were reversed, both companies would be doing the same thing, just reversed.
-At the end of the day, I personally, don't see imessage as a monopoly. It's part of the ecosystem within apple's phones. There are clear alternatives out there to an iphone. The consumer has spoken within the US market so it shouldn't be on apple to play nice with opponents. Competitors should merely do better or build a better product in order to make Apple the inferior product.
It's called competition by innovation to me. Google/Android seems, again, to me, to be trying to bitch smack Apple but by the Govt's hand. That leads to a slippery slope.
ETA: In full disclosure, I'm an apple user and my whole family is too. That being said, I also use an nVidia Shield TV and have had android phones. I like the product, I just like Apple for my family/kids a bit better. They both do things really well and have both spurred innovation from each other.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 8:14 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:55 am to Fat Batman
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Apple is going to use the RCS Universal Profile not Google's Jibe. I believe they've also indicated they are going to work with GSMA to add encryption to the Universal Profile.
That's just it, the government wants them to build their own version of messaging that is compatible with what Google is doing. The carriers, who should be doing this job, not Google or Apple, aren't doing shite and don't care to do shite here. You said carrier before, they are doing f**k all and in some cases just throwing up their hands and saying f**k it, Google can do it.
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Apple piggybacked iMessage on SMS, a universal messaging system which is what consumers really want, and brought those users onto their platform "seamlessly" (which is a nice way to say "underhandedly"). Then when people tried to switch to Android, they weren't receiving their messages because Apple had hijacked their phone numbers (iPhones were still trying to send iMessages to their numbers instead of SMS).
That's fricked up. I don't know if Apple has since fixed that issue, but it's not the only example of Apple doing shady shite to lock in users and make it hard to switch.
This is fricked up and should never been allowed, I think this for the most part has been made easier if you read the instructions, people don't really like to do that though.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 8:58 am
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