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re: Catholic/Protestant Debate
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:35 am to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:35 am to Squirrelmeister
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Is God not strong enough, not omnipotent enough, to overcome the demonic enemies? Or is he capable, but would rather the demons keep doing their evil deeds? How can God be both omnipotent and benevolent at the same time? In Isaiah 45 God specifically says he creates evil. Why?
Even with your Goliath expose, you are using different translations of the Bible to satisfy the end goal of pushing some level of inauthenticity or inaccuracy, not understanding that certain words in the Bible are extremely contextual to time, place, translation, etc.
ASV has "evil" in Isaiah 45 but in a wildly different translation from many others that use either "disaster" or "calamity." Which is in reference to talking about the nations that would reject him.
It's not about "creating evil," in the sense that God created evil as a "thing." That's a completely different although relevant topic. That particular passage is not pointing to that.
Light and darkness is closer - but even that is a completely different concept.
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Is God not strong enough, not omnipotent enough, to overcome the demonic enemies? Or is he capable, but would rather the demons keep doing their evil deeds? How can God be both omnipotent and benevolent at the same time?
All different kinds of questions that are good to ask, and do have good answers. But you can't pull a single passage out, interpret it on our own erroneously and then extrapolate a whole bunch of inaccurate ideas from that. Although I suspect you've dug in and never found a sufficient answer?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:47 am to Freauxzen
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Even with your Goliath expose, you are using different translations of the Bible to satisfy the end goal of pushing some level of inauthenticity or inaccuracy
Nope, I copied and pasted straight from the ESV for all the Goliath stories. The contradictions are simply and plainly made evident by the text of the Bible.
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not understanding that certain words in the Bible are extremely contextual to time, place, translation
Seriously can you read? In one story David is a young boy who killed Goliath. In on story David is an old man and his solider Elhanan killed Goliath.
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ASV has "evil" in Isaiah 45 but in a wildly different translation from many others that use either "disaster" or "calamity." Which is in reference to talking about the nations that would reject him.
It’s the Hebrew word “rah” which just literally and simply means “bad”. In Genesis 2, it is the tree of knowledge of good and “rah”. In Genesis 6 man and his thoughts were “rah” so God had to flood the earth and kill everyone. The people of Sodom were “rah” and sinful so they had to be destroyed. The same exact Hebrew word is used in Isaiah 45. Disaster and calamity are just some English words chosen in some translations that, in my opinion, show they are uncomfortable using “evil” in Isaiah 45 (common in earlier translations) because they don’t feel their loving god is supposed to create evil.
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But you can't pull a single passage out, interpret it on our own erroneously
Where is my error, specifically?
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then extrapolate a whole bunch of inaccurate ideas from that
I don’t know to what you are referring.
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Although I suspect you've dug in and never found a sufficient answer?
I’ve dug in and found a sufficient answer.
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