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re: I quit doing cardio
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:45 am to NewOrleansBlend
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:45 am to NewOrleansBlend
and i still say that of the 5 things i listed....VO2 max training like jogging is the least important
and 2 focused strength sessions plus 8k steps per day is more than 95% of americans do currently
the 3-4 sessions plus hard conditioing plus walking is more than 98-99% do.
so yea i wasnt wrong on that.
im sure in a perfect world it would be exactly like Rusin says or one of the others but most normal people dont have 15 hours to dedicate to fitness in a week
and when im talking VO2 max training, im talking traditional...jogging on a treadmill, jogging in the neighborhood, riding a stationary bike, elliptical etc
which imo is shite.
and 2 focused strength sessions plus 8k steps per day is more than 95% of americans do currently
the 3-4 sessions plus hard conditioing plus walking is more than 98-99% do.
so yea i wasnt wrong on that.
im sure in a perfect world it would be exactly like Rusin says or one of the others but most normal people dont have 15 hours to dedicate to fitness in a week
and when im talking VO2 max training, im talking traditional...jogging on a treadmill, jogging in the neighborhood, riding a stationary bike, elliptical etc
which imo is shite.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:12 am to lsu777
You are the king of strawman arguments in this thread. I didn’t endorse jogging, I don’t minimize the importance of strength training, I posted studies.
I think it is pretty clear that cardiorespiratory fitness is not the least important factor for longevity in any list.
I don’t think you’re capable of even being willing to change your mind about this issue so this is pointless to continue
I think it is pretty clear that cardiorespiratory fitness is not the least important factor for longevity in any list.
I don’t think you’re capable of even being willing to change your mind about this issue so this is pointless to continue
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:21 pm to lsu777
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VO2 max training like jogging is the least important
I think some people just misunderstand the reason elite endurance athlete Zone2 train and forget it's part of a polarized training regime where you also have to do maximal efforts in the other 20% of your training. Most of us are not elite endurance athletes. You can stimulate mitochondrial bio genesis at any cardio zone level. You get more stimulus-response at higher effort levels per unit time. But efforts levels above Zone 3 leads to increased fatigue and the need for more recovery time. For endurance athletes total volume of training is everything. High intensity training and the required recovery limited total volume. While Zone 2 training allows for an almost unlimited training volume. If you only get 4-5 hours of cardio a week Zone2/polarized training is probably not the right thing for you to maximize cardio benefit. HIIT is probably a better fit in this scenario. But HIIT increases fatigue and might interfere with strength training. And for those of us over the hill there are cardiac risks running at high heart rates. Steps are a pretty meaningless metric. Time and heart rate are what should be targeted. If you can elevate your heart rate into zone 2-3 and maintain it there during your lifting routine you can probably kill two birds with one stone. That's the basis of the rucking using increased weight to increase heart rate during a normal walk pace.
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