re: Which teams would you trade rosters including draft assets with?

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The fact is, LeBron inherited an incredibly bad team, the worst in the NBA, and right away, made them much better.

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But again, On/Off is very important to this equation.

When both rookies were on court, the teams weren't that different.

When both rookies were off court, Lebron's supporting cast was respectable at least, Wemby's is all time level bad. I'm not sure how you can blame Wemby but give Lebron credit. The data shows it's pretty clear that Wemby's cast is much, much worse than rookie Lebron's. If that were not true, his cast would play much better when he's off court, but they don't.

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but I'm sorry, LeBron impacted winning more than Wemby.

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But why? Exactly how? Rookie Lebron was good, no question. Rookie Wemby is by far more impactful defensively, that's not a question. But Rookie Lebron was an awfully inefficient scorer, substantially worse than Wemby.

I'm just trying to figure out where rookie Lebron made all of these differences, when none of the data backs it up that he was clearly and obviously a bigger difference maker than Wemby. You can try to use wins/losses, but again, I'll point to on/off as that is extremely important to tell the entire story here.

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A significant amount of actual wins tell me more than a flawed stat.

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In fairness, we're judging individual players, not better teams, so wins/losses is a flawed stat as well.

Do you think Chet has been better than Wemby this season? I think that ultimately proves the point. Wemby has blown by Chet in the 2nd half of the season and is pretty clearly the better player, but his team is like 30 games worse.

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even though you're making it seem like LeBrons team was actually good

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I'm just providing data, that's all.

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I think it will take a few years to make a better comparison.

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Certainly. And again, I'm not saying Wemby will be the GOAT or even has a good chance to be the GOAT. Just stating that's where his ceiling, the best possible version of him as a player can be.