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re: Do you consider rap and hip hop to be music?
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:16 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:16 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I find in this debate more times than not, the lines are often drawn between musicians and non musicians as to how they feel about hip hop/rap.
The day someone could sit down with a drum machine and create beats with their fingers was the day the quality of music began to wane.
Even punk bands who played songs with three or four chords were forced to learn an instrument. To study and woodshed and become at least mildly proficient at playing their instrument.
I submit that if you’ve never spent those hours, days, months and years alone, learning everything possible about your instrument, it’s hard to understand where the negativity surrounding rap comes from.
Add to that the fact that for many musicians, the performers they looked up to or were inspired by may have often been overlooked by the general public. They may have struggled after pouring themselves into writing a piece only to see it whored out as a music bed for someone to mumble over.
In conclusion, when music no longer required an immense effort to write and perform, music became a shadow of itself.
The day someone could sit down with a drum machine and create beats with their fingers was the day the quality of music began to wane.
Even punk bands who played songs with three or four chords were forced to learn an instrument. To study and woodshed and become at least mildly proficient at playing their instrument.
I submit that if you’ve never spent those hours, days, months and years alone, learning everything possible about your instrument, it’s hard to understand where the negativity surrounding rap comes from.
Add to that the fact that for many musicians, the performers they looked up to or were inspired by may have often been overlooked by the general public. They may have struggled after pouring themselves into writing a piece only to see it whored out as a music bed for someone to mumble over.
In conclusion, when music no longer required an immense effort to write and perform, music became a shadow of itself.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:30 pm to geauxbrown
geauxbrown, well said, well said.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:44 am to geauxbrown
This. I own quite a few rap records and have nostalgia for some of the rap music I liked growing up, but I was a child. As I got older I realized I didn’t really like the rap, but Parliament, E,W&F and other earlier music that they stole in the samples.
The problem in this argument is some people say all music is art. That is simply just not the case. There is some rap music that you can consider art, but it’s a much lower percentage, similar to bro country and hair bands.
It’s music, but most of it just isn’t very good.
The problem in this argument is some people say all music is art. That is simply just not the case. There is some rap music that you can consider art, but it’s a much lower percentage, similar to bro country and hair bands.
It’s music, but most of it just isn’t very good.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:26 am to geauxbrown
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The day someone could sit down with a drum machine and create beats with their fingers was the day the quality of music began to wane.
What about the plethora of 80s music that is not hip hop that uses drum machines?
Making quality beats isnt easy, especially before there were computer programs to line everything up.
Saying hip hop isnt music is simplistic and ignorant.
Just look at art as an example, are only paintings considered art?
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