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re: District Judge: Gun Ban For Illegal Immigrant Unconstitutional
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The constitution limits government power against everyone within our borders.
So “We the people” doesn’t refer to the citizenry, but rather, everyone?
If so, then why are foreigners (illegal aliens) even deported…ever?
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:54 pm to jimmy the leg
My question is this; laws (the constitution) are created to govern the government and citizens of the USA, how can a non citizen benefit from laws and constitutional rights in the USA?
In one hand, I’d say we have human rights that the first amendment outlines (freedom of speech, religion, protest, etc) but where do these rights end for foreign citizens? In the other hand, they are foreign citizens, who are not supposed to be here in the first place.
I am the strongest proponent of “Shall not be infringed”; I’m a strong proponent of constitutional carry laws, it’s the right of the citizens of the USA. But these are not citizens of the USA, who are here illegally! If we can’t trust them to follow laws, such as immigration laws, driving legally, etc. how can we trust law breakers to function in a civil society of laws?
However, this is an interesting situation.
In one hand, I’d say we have human rights that the first amendment outlines (freedom of speech, religion, protest, etc) but where do these rights end for foreign citizens? In the other hand, they are foreign citizens, who are not supposed to be here in the first place.
I am the strongest proponent of “Shall not be infringed”; I’m a strong proponent of constitutional carry laws, it’s the right of the citizens of the USA. But these are not citizens of the USA, who are here illegally! If we can’t trust them to follow laws, such as immigration laws, driving legally, etc. how can we trust law breakers to function in a civil society of laws?
However, this is an interesting situation.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:57 pm to jimmy the leg
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So “We the people” doesn’t refer to the citizenry, but rather, everyone?
"We the people" formed the government. That's all.
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
See my quotes from James Madison (who knows a thing or 2 about the Constitution)
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If so, then why are foreigners (illegal aliens) even deported…ever?
Their presence in this country is not a fundamental right and the Constitution does not restrict this government action.
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