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re: Facts are facts..
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:10 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:10 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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3-pointers are overrated. If you can produce the same points per shot with 2-pointers, you will give up less transition opportunities because you are missing less shots, and the ones you do miss are not giving up long rebounds and leak-outs.
This is astronomically false. The whole league is dependent on 3s. You can’t produce same points per shot with 2s in todays NBA. You don’t make or take 3s in the NBA- you will lose.
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:34 pm to Pels_Yaz
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You can’t produce same points per shot with 2s in todays NBA.
Huh? That's absolutely nonsense. 60% on 2s is the same number of points as 40% on 3s. 2 pointers also produce more fouls, resulting in more free throw opportunities. 2s also produce more Kobe assists.
Nobody is saying we shouldn't take 3s, but some people have gotten way too hung up on analytics and end up missing mountains of context on the shots.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:26 pm to Pels_Yaz
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This is astronomically false. The whole league is dependent on 3s.
you didn't hear what he said did you?
Shooting less 3's means less transition opportunties for the opposing team.
Having an efficient offense does wonders for you defense. Making teams play half court offense is the best way to start our defense.
Despite not shooting as many 3's as others, we still have a top 10 TS% as a team, as well as a top 10 ORtg.
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You can’t produce same points per shot with 2s in todays NBA.
I just showed you that BI was just as efficient shooting his mid range shot this past game as he is shooting 3's.
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You don’t make or take 3s in the NBA- you will lose.
I agree, but that doesn't mean you force guys who aren't that great at it. I've explained it before, BI simply doesn't get his 3 point shot off quickly and he needs space, and he doesn't always get that. He's always stepping into his shot when he shoots 3's and taking his time.
IF Trey/CJ/Herb take 24 3's, that's a good number. Naji/Jose/BI/JV/Larry need to take about 12. and yeah, Jordan Hawkins needs to play and he needs to jack up 4-6 of them.
WHy would we want guys that shoot 36% and less from 3 to take more 3's? I want Trey/CJ/Herb to take even more 3's. If we lose b/c two of them were off, then so be it. We're going to lose.
Everyeone is all over BI to take more than his 4 threes a game. Why? Does he really need to take 8 a game? what's wrong with 5? Does that make any difference if it's simply 5?
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BI IS NOT THE REASON WE AVERAGE A LOW NUMBER OF 3'S PER GAME AS A TEAM.
We give 79 of the 240 available minutes to 3 guys who either don't shoot 3's, are never shoot them, in Zion/JV/Larry. They average less than 3 attempts a game.
What other team has a 4 and a 5 that don't shoot any 3's?
We need a center that can shoot.
Look at some of the top 3 point shooting teams
Celtics - Porzingis takes 5 a game, Horford take 4.
Bucks - Lopez takes 5 a game, Portis takes 3.
Pacers - Turner takes 4 a game, Siakam and Toppin each take 3.
One of Larry or JV needs to go this offseason, and we need to find a 5 that can shoot to offset Zion's inability to shoot 3's.
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