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re: SpaceX Starship Flight Test 3 | B10 crashes in Gulf, S28 burns up during reentry
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:11 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:11 pm to The Pirate King
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Thank you for identifying yourself as someone who has no idea what they're talking about in this matter.
Space vehicles are about small incremental progress and several launches and test fires before the final product. Even after they start launching these with humans in them, they're still going to be drastically improving them.
SpaceX is building the biggest missile in human history and trying to control it and make it reusable. So far they've made steady progress with every launch.
And you do? My simple point here is, you can do what SpaceX is doing without blowing up rockets on pretty much every test. (And that's the end of my point.)
Real quotes from both Nasa and Elon Musk...
Gene Kranz
Elon Musk
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:13 pm
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:15 pm to Lonnie Utah
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My simple point here is, you can do what SpaceX is doing without blowing up rockets on pretty much every test. (And that's the end of my point.)
It's a really stupid fricking point.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:30 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Real quotes from both Nasa and Elon Musk...
Gene Kranz
You do understand that Kranz said that right after NASA had the mother of all failures in orbit, right?
You don't know your space program history well. We blew up a LOT of rockets before Saturn, and lost two more shuttles after that, along with numerous smaller launches. For every one we lost, the Soviets lost 10.
Falcon 9 had a gestation period that was arguably even worse than Starship. Now it is one of the most reliable platforms available. The Japanese blew up one of theirs 5 seconds off the pad just last week due to a guidance failure. Space be hard. Elon's head is harder, and I thank him for it.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
You can't be serious comparing a quote from a flight director about the Apollo 13 mission to Musk's quote, which is clearly about testing rockets 
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:59 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Real quotes from both Nasa and Elon Musk...
The context for those two statements have little in common. To juxtapose them is disingenuous.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:30 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Real quotes from both Nasa and Elon Musk...
To clarify, I don't think Kranz made that quote. It was written into the Apollo 13 movie script in an attempt to summarize the ethos of the moment. IMO, it did so brilliantly and accurately.
For the non-scientists, please note those two statements were made with respect to two distinctly different phases of their respective life-cycles.
For those interested, SpaceX's engineering approach is more akin to Apollo than what NASA has become today in SLS. Here's a couple of references for your reading pleasure:
1) What Made Apollo a Success?
2) SpaceX System Engineering: A Traditional Discipline in a Non-traditional Organization
Both easily located online. The first compiled in the early 70s. The latter in 2012.
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Lonnie Utah
For a "scientist," your posts seem awfully amateurish. How 'bout you display some real scientist humility, grow up, and do your ranks proud.
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