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re: 3 Body Problem - Netflix

Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:43 pm to
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The Trisolarans communicate telepathically. You can’t lie if someone can read your mind.


Even if that's true, they still live on a planet that has an ecosystem. And that'll certainly have plants and animals, which they can observe. Even if they can't read THEIR minds, they still either see or have records of various life forms.

Animals and plants 'pretend' to be other species, to ward off predators. Or hide from them. Baboons and ravens will "cooperate" with top predators (lions, wolves) in a game of 'Nope, no predators here!' that's freaking crazy to imagine.

Momma birds will fake having a hurt wing, to lure predators away from finding the nest.

I get it, as super intelligent beings, it's fun to construct some scenario where they'd communicate with us and all is well, but once they find out we "lie", not even to them, that's all it takes for them to declare war on all humanity.




*No idea why the DVs, but maybe y'all don't understand nature or don't like it when the tiniest of holes are poked at your make-believe stories, but that's just how I see it. It's not a dismissal of this story in particular, or the series, which I really do enjoy. We get fascinating sciency stuff regarding space travel, quantum entanglements, radio astronomy, but then to just gloss over other areas just to make the story happen.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 8:03 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:56 pm to
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I get it, as super intelligent beings, it's fun to construct some scenario where they'd communicate with us and all is well, but once they find out we "lie", not even to them, that's all it takes for them to declare war on all humanity


You can’t deal with this because you’re looking at it from a human perspective and nature as we know it. The rest of the universe is a whole other ballgame. We have no clue.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:48 pm to
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No idea why the DVs, but maybe y'all don't understand nature or don't like it when the tiniest of holes are poked at your make-believe stories, but that's just how I see it.



Someone explained it to you already. They communicate telepathically and are incapable of lying to each other. It’s not crazy to suggest that a species who evolved in this way might be surprised to find out that another sapient species routinely tells outright falsehoods.

You’re arguing about it using animals that are incapable of speech (and also happened to evolve in the same ecosystem as us) as evidence, and it’s just.. kind of silly given the context.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 6:11 am
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