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re: Shogun - Official Series Discussion Thread **Spoilers**

Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:14 am to
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1. It wasn't Toranaga's idea to assassinate his brother, that was Toranaga's son and Yabashige's nephews plan.

Meh, there is nothing happening in Toranaga’s camp he doesn’t know about. His son dying sure was convenient in buying him 49 extra days.

He knew the assassination attempt was happening. If his son succeeds then boom it worked and that’s good, if he fails and dies, 49 extra days, he knew….

Another question. They all make a big deal about proper etiquette, honor, hospitality, etc… Yet it seems the work around of this is just to send assassins in the night, it literally happens 4 times in the show.

Why do these people not have better night time security when they are staying in a hostile place? Literally one guard gets killed and their entire camp is completely overrun? And this happens multiple times, seems like an irresponsibly low amount of security
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67193 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:24 am to
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Why do these people not have better night time security when they are staying in a hostile place?


ole boy knifed the night time security.

I really don’t understand why Ishido would send assassins.

His options were:

A. Keep here there/have her commit suicide and make it clear everyone was his prisoner.

B. Let her go and lose his hostages.

Telling everyone you’re letting her go and then having her killed in the night doesn’t accomplish anything different than 1. it probably looks worse.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45313 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Meh, there is nothing happening in Toranaga’s camp he doesn’t know about.


Did he also plan for his son to use canons to attack Ishido's envoy?
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