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re: If you believe your rights come from God then you are a Christian Nationalist

Posted on 2/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7410 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Even atheist scholars would laugh at this statement.


Nice appeal to authority

All systems of logic, that I'm aware of, have a concept of proof and a way of verifying with high degree of certainty whether an argument constitutes a proof. As long as the logic is consistent (and we have good reason to think that many of them are), once we verify a proof we can accept its conclusion without worrying that there may be another proof that makes the opposite conclusion. With morality though, we have no such method, and people all the time make moral arguments that can be reversed or called into question by other moral arguments

Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 1:30 pm to
It's not an appeal to authority. The steal-man argument for a naturalist worldview is everything can be explained through science and logic. You're trying to take logic out of the equation while arguing for naturalism. Anybody can just say words. And I can prove morality is objective. If you make a statement, it can't be both true and false at the same time. The simple fact that you're making a moral argument in the first place is proof that morality is objective. The argument for moral relativism is self-defeating.
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